Will Hong Kong protests interfere with U.S.-China trade talks?

Will Hong Kong protests interfere with U.S.-China trade talks?


ADMINITRATION IS MOST INTERESTED WE’LL GET BACK TO THAT BUT NOW TO CHINA JOINING US IS CHINA WATCHER MICHAEL PILLSBURY SO MICHAEL YOU HEARD THE TALK OVER THE WEEKEND, THE PRESIDENT MAKING SOUNDS TOWARDS CHINA, THAT WE’RE MUCH MORE POSITIVE THAN WE’VE HEARD RECENTLY. I’M JUST WONDERING HOW THE CHINESE ARE READING THIS, WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT, TALKS TO TIM COOK FROM APPLE ABOUT THE PROBLEMS WITH TARIFFS AND MAYBE LOOSENING UP AS FAR AS THAT GOES HOW ARE THE CHINESE READING ALL OF THIS?>> WELL THE CHOICE ARE QUITE RELIEVED, DAVID, OVER THIS DEMONSTRATION YESTERDAY IN HONG KONG. IT COULD HAVE GONE THE OTHER DIRECTION WITH A LOT OF VIOLENCE AND THE POLICE CRACKING DOWN, AND AN INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT AND INSTEAD WHAT YOU SEE I THINK IS THE PRESIDENT WANTS A DEAL THAT HE THINKS THE CHINESE HAVEN’T COME AROUND QUITE ENOUGH YET FOR A DEAL, SO THAT’S THE TRADE TALKS. THE HONG KONG NEGOTIATIONS ARE DIFFERENT, BUT I THINK YOU SEE THE SAME APPROACH WITH THE PRESIDENT. HE’S TALKING ABOUT XI-JINPING SOMEHOW MEETING WITH THE DEMONSTRATE ORS LEADERSHIP. IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THAT THE DEMONSTRATORS WANT IT’S NOT THAT OUT OF THE QUESTION. THEY WANT THE WORD “RIOT” NOT TO BE USED ANY MORE. THEY WANT AN INVESTIGATION, INTO POLICE BRUTALITY, THIS YOUNG WOMAN WHOSE EYE WAS SHOT BY THE MEAN BAG OR WHATEVER IT WAS AND THEY WANT TO CONTINUE HONG KONG ‘S MOVEMENT REALLY MORE THAN 30 YEARS NOW TOWARD UNIVERSAL SUFFERING AND ELECTION OF THEIR LEADER. NOW OBVIOUSLY THERE NEEDS TO BE A COLONY SO BRITAIN APPOINTED THEIR LEADER. THEY DON’T HAVE A TRADITION OF DEMOCRACY IN THAT SENSE, BUT THEY HAVE A KIND OF STRANGE SYSTEM NOW THAT THE BRITISH, THEY NEED TO SPEAK UP AND BE INVOLVED BECAUSE THE BRITISH ARE THE ONES WHO MADE THE DEAL BACK IN 84. THEY HAVE KEPT OUT OF THIS. THEY’VE SORT OF HELD THE CODE OF THE AMERICANS, PRESIDENT TRUMP AND XI-JINPING SAID YOU GUYS WORK IT OUT, BUT WE HAVE SOME INFLUENCE BECAUSE WE GIVE HONG KONG SPECIAL TRADE BENEFITS AS LONG AS THEY’RE AUTONOMOUS, BUT THIS IS REALLY BETWEEN THE BRITISH AND THE CHINESE AND I THINK YOU SEE THE PRESIDENT WANTING TO SEE A DEAL WORKED OUT IN HONG KONG SO IT DOESN’T RUIN THE TRADE TALKS. IN A WAY THEY’RE BOTH LINKED, DAVID. THE ISSUE OF WHAT IS LEGALLY BINDING IS A KEY ISSUE IN THE TRADE TALKS. THEY CAN’T JUST SAY BEST INTENTIONS AND WALK AWAY AND IN HONG KONG, THERE IS THIS WRITTEN DEAL BACK IN 1984 ABOUT HOW HONG KONG WILL NOT BE GOVERNED BY THE COMMUNIST PARTY, SO — DAVID: AND EXACTLY, I MEAN THE POINT IS THAT ONCE AGAIN WE HEAR HOW DISIN AGAIN USE US HOW THE DEAL MAKING IS ABOUT TRADE ISSUES WHETHER IT’S TALKING ABOUT HONG KONG, AND THE PRESIDENT MADE A, I THINK, A PRETTY HARMLESS REMARK ABOUT HONG KONG, IN A TWEET LAST WEEK, AND IMMEDIATELY, THE CHINESE CAME OUT LIKE HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO BE SENDING THE TROOPS INTO HONG KONG AND HE SAID THEY WERE CLAIMING THAT THE UNITED STATES WAS BEHIND THE WHOLE THING, LINKING US TO TERRORISM IN HONG KONG.>> WHICH IT CAN’T. SUSAN LI IS THERE TOO. DAVID: SHE IS INDEED BUT THE POINT HERE IS, I MEAN, IS THE PRESIDENT USED TO THIS KIND OF RHETORIC OR COULD THIS SOUR THE TRADE RELATIONS AT ALL? I THINK HE’S USED TO THIS KIND OF RHETORIC FOR SURE. I THINK HE HAS DESCRIBED HIM SEVERAL BOOKS HIS MAIN CONCERN WITH CHINA IS THEY NOT BE ALLOWED TO SURPASS US AND BECOME THE NUMBER ONE LEADER OF THE WORLD. THAT’S WHAT’S AT STAKE IN BOTH THESE THINGS, BOTH IN THE HONG KONG NEGOTIATIONS, AND THE DIRECT TRADE TALKS. I’D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A PITCH FOR SOMETHING STEVE BANNON SAID. STEVE BANNON OBVIOUSLY IS NO SHRINKING VIOLET. HE SAID THE PRESIDENT CAN’T AFFORD TO LISTEN TO THE FIRE BREATHERS. THAT WAS THE KEYWORD, THE “FIRE BREATHERS” IN AMERICA, WHO ARE CALLING CHINA AN ENEMY, SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE STAND WITH THE STUDENTS IN HONG KONG AS THOUGH THERE’S SOME KIND OF BUDAPEST 1956 RALLY AND THAT’S NOT WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO DO. HE’S TRYING TO GET TWO DEALS DONE BUT UNTIL BORIS JOHNSON STEPS UP WE CAN’T MAKE A LOT OF PROGRESS WITH THE HONG KONG UNIVERSAL SUFFERING ISSUE. THAT’S THE BIG ISSUE. DAVID: BUT OUR BIG ISSUE, MICHAEL, IS THE TRADE DEAL.>> BY FAR. DAVID: AND HONG KONG IS OF GREAT INTEREST TO, WE HAVE A LOT OF CONNECTIONS WITH HONG KONG. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO CAME HERE, A LOT OF AMERICANS WHO GO TO HONG KONG. THERE’S A STRONG EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT TO FREEDOM IN THAT COUNTRY, BUT IS THAT GOING TO INTERFERE WITH TRADE TALKS AT ALL?>> WELL PRESIDENT XI HAS GOT HIS FIRE BREATHERS TOO. HE’S GOT PEOPLE TELLING HIM THAT IT’S TIME TO CRACK DOWN NOW AND WAITING FOR ONE MORE SORT OF VIOLENT EPISODE IN HONG KONG AND SEND THESE POLICE ACROSS-THE-BOARDER IS WHAT I’M WORRIED ABOUT. WE GOT FIRE BREATHERS ON BOTH SIDES DAVID. DAVID: WE HAVE THE MARKET

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  1. Always the leftist that divide and bring misery to freedom and everyone else in the way of their greed!

  2. A TRUE LEADER HAS THE CONFIDENCE TO STAND ALONE
    THE COURAGE TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS
    THE COMPASSION TO LISTEN TO THE NEEDS OF OTHERS
    HE DOES NOT SET OUT TO BE A LEADER
    BUT BECOMES ONE BY THE EQUALITY OF HIS ACTIONS
    AND THE INTEGRITY OF HIS INTENT.
    THIS IS AMERICA'S CHOSEN PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP !

  3. Of course Trump is used to this type of rhetoric, I mean. Haven't you heard every democrat lawmaker since the 2016 election?

  4. Great New for U.S economy .Trump is American best President we ever had. I agree with the President, China must make a deal with demonstrators leader to end protesting on the streets in Hong Kong

  5. Can make it go really well, if we take it that way. I would like to migrate some of China here and a little US there. Think that is where they are aiming. Have to wait and see.

  6. I hope the regime begins to crumble now. Our Democ Rat politicians would wail with grief if the people took power from the elitist communist masters our Socialists (Democrats) admire so much.

  7. As I've been point out for years, these crooked trade deals take millions of our Union Jobs and send them to 3rd World Marxist Dictatorships unimpeded by EPA, OSHA, Human Rights, Child Labor or Threat of Union Contract. Plus the Corporate Investors can bank their evil profits off shore away from our high tax system.
    So Yes, Trump has the power to Free all Chinese just by demanding that China form an EPA and OSHA programs and correct Human Rights and Child Labor and let Chinese People Unionize or we should not deal with them or any other country that violates the laws that we set for our businesses in this country. Once again, these Trade Deals work against Americans at every level.
    Is it too much to ask for a free and open Press like we used to have?
    Why is our Leftist supporting these crooked Trade Deals?
    Why does our media support a trade deal that unloads ship after ship of junk that replaces US workers and still cry that Trump is starting a recession with his Tariffs? How stupid is that??

  8. And Feinstein and her hubby just doing fine in China.. Doesn't Biden 's son or brother have dealings in China also… how many more are there.. China wants our money.. We knew China will never hold to any agreement ..

  9. There were violence and illegal acts by the protesters. So this Westerner is suggesting the HK police drop charges?

  10. Why do we care what the dictator-lawless Chinese do? Just focus on what American do to help its people and economy, period!

  11. The protests will not be detrimental on USA and China trade talks, but will have the opposite effect. China needs a winner. This will be ignored since this doesn’t help the naysayers attempt to depress the New York Stock Market or the USA economy.

  12. If China waits till after 2020 to make a deal I hope TRUMP breaks it off in them for the low blow cause you know China is going to try make TRUMP look bad just before election to f2f o as much damage to 2020

  13. POTUS is in no hurry to make a deal. Bring Our factories back to the USA, after that then a deal will probably be made not until then.. China has done lost its CheckMate China. No tariffs if the companies make it here at home USA. & I do think we will be buying Greenland strategic defense with a new Global reset of trade & currency Denmark will not have the funds to sustain Greenland but the USA will.. KAG/2020 πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

  14. No universal suffrage for HK people by British colony in 150 years. But Christ Pattern wanna HK became a Democratic society and have its own elections in his last five years and asking for freedoms from the most totalitarian government Beijing.what a joke

  15. The Hong Kong rioters are nothing but stupid ignorant and brutal dreamers. They are thinking the USA may help them get independent from China or bring forth the Democratic elections to Hong Kong.

    The USA uses these stupid and ferocious rioters to get a better trade deal. Let's say if a decent trade deal is stricken, all the protests will come to an end, and no more riot money will be given to these rioters.

    I hate these stupid selfish ferocious rioters causing such a great damage to Hong Kong and the innocent Hong Kong people. These mobsters deserve jail times.

  16. China's trying to steal Taiwan Hong Kong South China Sea the Philippines Indonesia Vietnam there are just mad because there's a trade war and it's affecting mainland China but not really Hong Kong wasn't it China who created cheating

  17. If Trump Hand Hong Kong into Xi hand. The Chinese that love freedom will never trust the west again, communist China been turning Chinese people who live in the west into β€œwe all Chinese” β€œthe west alway look down on Chinese people.” If this is handed to Xi. It just proved the point communist China been telling Chinese people all this time, not to trust the white westerners.

  18. Hope So. We should all stop any and all trade with China for human rights. That means a completely new government and all people can have no relationship to current. As well the military must change all Officers. They will take Hong Kong.

  19. Hong Kong's liberation from Communism overshadows trade talks any day of the week. Keep fighting Hong Kong.
    God bless America
    God bless President Trump
    Trump 2020 – See Clearly

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  21. Why is there no western media reporting on that the HK Legal Exchange Foundation proposed an application to the UN to investigate to whether the US is involved in Hong Kong's recent riots? Western media is really something.

  22. Free Hong Kong. The people of Hong Kong do not want to live under the boots of a Chinese socialist Dictatorship. The U.S. and U.K. should support the people's desire for liberty.

  23. Hay…Can you hear it…surely someone in America remembers its sound…It is very distinctive.
    I'm halfway around the other side of the World and I can hear it clearly…
    FREEDOMS CRY…well actually it more like a SCREAM by now…
    Now what is surprising…no not freedom's cry…that's universal
    No, what is surprising is the deafening silence from the 'leader of the Free World.'
    OK He's a bit harder to recognize now…He spends a lot of his time writing letters to odious dictators…
    But surely there has to be something from the 'Big Yellow Bird' He's famous for his 'tweets' after all. No nothing, not a tweet, not a quack not a dickybird…
    Maybe he's fearful those nice dictators won't come and stroke his ego any more…
    Freedom's heroes once lived in the land of the 'brave'….not anymore though, now those heroes have moved…To a place far away …Hong Kong

  24. Hong Kong. The entire Free World (what is left of it) will HAVE to stand with HONG KONG. Pushing China further underwater. Coming crop losses due to GSM will hit that land hard. They will be shut out of trade markets if they cause problems. Not good. Meanwhile, South Korea and even newly emerging to FREEDOM, N Korea will take ALL their IT trade if they F.up.

  25. COMMUNIST CHINA IS our enemy! infiltrated Hollywood, Silicon Valley, Universities, MSM. Big EVERYTHING. They are wolves in sheep's clothing. GOD HELP US!!!

  26. HK really should have been getting democratic elections before 97, if I remember the deal from 84 correctly. The whole idea of autonomy means more trade, it allows different relations, between HK and others so China can maintain it's relations and political stances without limiting it's ability to do trade through HK. Also if I remember correctly the 84 deal specified no communist rule…

  27. There's an old famous movie dialogue, "Finance is a gun.Β PoliticsΒ is knowing when to pull theΒ trigger", likewise for the current situation. Hopefully some wise guys in DC knows how to pull the trigger this time.
    Stand with HK, stay strong.

  28. Your right,democrats own the media and love how China handles their people and a democrats wet dream to dictate the people,no guns ,no freedom,no media coverage to go against China! A vote for democrats is one step closer to communism,fight America and Hong Kong to your last breath to defeat communist!

  29. We should help out the protesters. End all trade with main land china. trade only with hong kong. Or help them along all we can. Ende kommunism

  30. The British should have informed Hong Kong people before they handed it over to China. Unfortunately, they didn't. Shame on the British governoment.

  31. Hong Kong during British rule time in 1956 and 1967 protests broke out. The British did a good job no police brutality only 59 killed in 1967 and 51 killed in 1956. How many this time under China rule β€œ0”.

  32. One of the areas which always needs to be addressed is the the ability to know how to deal with other countries in trade. Strategic placement is one of those areas. So certain individuals should be a little more patient with what is actually occurring. During WW 2 there were a lot of areas that were not understood by the opponent. In the end it was what helped Allied Forces win the war !! It is also one of the areas the President understands in creating a great deal with other countries. No one is telling China how and when to do business. The U.S. is simply working out their plans as the President sees fit. He understands this all because it is what helped him earn his billions.

  33. deal was hong kong belongs to china but they give 50 years to adapt to the mainland , unless hong kong try's for independence then it goes to china , this movement pretty much was for independence but all the police violence stories where debunked and u.s backing to protest leaders pretty much proven. so pretty much its china's choice what happens in hk now ,

  34. TWITTER and FACEBOOK suspends hundreds if accounts linked to China state sponsoring of disinformation campaigns. There are literally half a dozen on this thread alone. YOUTUBE, needs to do the same!!!

  35. Secret diplomatic documents show the UK wanted to allow Hong Kong to have democratic elections in the 50's, but abandoned the idea when China threatened all out invasion

  36. China does NOT WELCOME – and will not brook – ANY interference from America or Britain……In short…. KEEP OUT…….…..

  37. All of this talk about protests in Japan and not one single concern about Fukishima, which continues to discharge massive amounts of radioactive waste into the Pacific, ignoring the ongoing destruction of marine life and the continued processing of contaminated seafood for consumption by the American public. Just what the f*ck is going on ? Doesn't anybody care about Mother Earth or the bleak future of tomorrow's generations ? Are Japanese politicians successful in distracting the world from this horrific situation ?

  38. As much as i love Britain, Britain is not what it used to be they don't have the capability to go toe to toe with China, they have no real leverage.

  39. china gonna try to use HK as a leverage in talks, the only problem is the USA has nothing to do with HK protests

  40. There never was any democracy in HK under British Colonial rule, which continued with U.S. support until the very last day. So the idea that the U.S., that they are sitting in Washington fretting about the democratic rights of people in HK is patently ridiculous. The U.S. administration, John Bolton, in particular and Pompeo, as well as U.S White Nationalist leader, they are in a full-scale economic trade war with China. So the HK issue is merely a stick to beat China with. These are anti-national provocations, of course. They are something that we have seen before in the so-called color-coded revolutions. In Ukraine and many other parts of the former USSR, so this is a playbook that we have seen many times before. Throw the Chinese flags in the sea, hoist the American flag. But these people should know that HK is (part of) China. China will handle its internal affairs as she sees fit. No country, absolutely no country will allow an existential threat to emerge on its territory, to its sovereignty without responding in a way that brings the situation under control. I hope the protesters are not naΓ―ve, because these foreign countries cannot and will not come to their assistance and aid. They are merely using them.

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