US companies brace for retaliation after Huawei ban

US companies brace for retaliation after Huawei ban


DAVID: FEARS OF HUAWEI RETALIATION ALREADY STARTING THE COMPANY RETHINKING BUSINESS WITH FEDEX. COMPANIES LIKE APPLE, NIKE COULD BE IMPACTED BY THE ONGOING FEUD. MARKET WATCH TECH EDITOR JEREMY OWENS, SAYS RETALIATION AGAINST FEDEX AND APPLE WILL HURT SALES. THAT IS NOT STOPPING THEM FROM STARTING IN THAT DIRECTION?>>SURE, SURE. HUAWEI WILL REACT IN SOME WAY, RIGHT? AND WE’RE GOING TO START SEEING ANCILLARY EFFECTS FROM OTHER COMPANIES. FEDEX NEVER THOUGHT THEY WOULD GET WRAPPED UP IN THIS. NOW THAT THEY HAVE, THERE ARE POSSIBLE BENEFITS FOR THEIR COMPETITORS. ETO WHICH DOES LOGISTICS AND DHL, OTHER COMPANIES IN CHINA. THAT IS THE KIND OF RIPPLE EFFECTS WE’RE GOING TO START SEEING FROM THIS. DAVID: THERE WAS A COUPLE EXTRAORDINARY PIECES, “WALL STREET JOURNAL” PIECE OVER 20 PAGES LONG, A LITANY OF ALL THE WAYS HUAWEI HAS STOLEN OUR MATERIAL, OUR SECRETS OVER THE YEARS. THEY GET SORT OF LIKE THE JAPANESE BACK ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO. THEY GET VERY GOOD REPLICATING WHAT WE DO. THEY’RE NOT VERY GOOD AT INNOVATION. INNOVATION WE HAVE IS WHAT THEY STEAL. THEY’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’RE REALLY STILL SOURCING FROM AMERICAN COMPANIES, GETTING THOSE CHIPS, GETTING THOSE COMPONENT. WE GAVE THEM A 90-DAY SO THEY’RE TRYING TO PUSH THAT THROUGH. WE’RE SEEING A LOT OF PURCHASES OUT OF CHINA OVER THE LAST 18 OR 24 MONTH. THAT MAY HAVE BEEN HUAWEI GETTING OUT AHEAD OF THIS. AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THE COMPONENTS THEY CAN BUILD THIS, THEY WILL GO DOWN THE ROAD AS FAR AS THEY CAN GO, THEY NEED THE 5G NETWORK AS BAD AS U.S. DOES. DAVID: I GOT BACK FROM A TRIP TO EUROPE. IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. EVERYWHERE I WENT IN ITALY, PARTICULARLY YOU SEE THE SIGNS, HUAWEI POSTERS UP THERE. HUAWEI IS HUGE IN EUROPE IN MANY PLACES. WHAT HAPPENS IN EUROPE IN THE STRUGGLE BETWEEN HUAWEI AND THE UNITED STATES AND 5G?>>DEPEND ON IF EUROPE — A LOT OF HUAWEI ADS YOU SEE FOR SMARTPHONES, NOT AS BIG IN THE U.S. BUT HUGE IN EUROPE, RIGHT? THAT DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY DO WHEN ANDROID CUTS OFF SUPPORT. FOR 5G, WE, THE U.S. PRESSURED EUROPE TO DROP HUAWEI SO THEY DON’T POTENTIALLY GIFT CHINESE GOVERNMENT AN IN, IF THEY USE THE U.S., THEY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT HAVING AN INROAD SO EUROPE IS CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE. DAVID: THEY SAY THE ANDROID OPERATING SYSTEM THEY HAVE BEEN CUT OFF FROM THAT THEY SAY THEY WILL DEVELOP THEIR OWN. THE HECK WITH YOU GUYS, WE’LL DO OUR OWN OS. WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE THE CHANCES COMING UP WITH A GOOD OPERATING SYSTEM WHAT THEY’RE LOSING WITH ANDROID?>>IN LAST HOUR OR SO, REPORTS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE OPERATING SYSTEM OUT BY JUNE, PROPRIETARY OPERATING SYSTEM BY JUNE ARE NOT ACCURATE. THEY DON’T PLAN TO HAVE SOMETHING OUT THAT FAST. THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING. HONESTLY, WHAT THEY’RE OFFERING NOW IS THE ABILITY FOR A THIRD OPERATING SYSTEM BESIDES IOS AND ANDROID TO HAVE A SOLID HOME, RIGHT? HUAWEI IS THE SECOND LARGEST MANUFACTURER OF PHONES RIGHT NOW ABOVE APPLE, LINE SAMSUNG. SO, IF THEY PUT A NEW OPERATING SYSTEM IN, NATURALLY HAS A BASE, THAT COULD DEVELOP A THIRD ONE. BUT ARE THEY FAR ENOUGH ALONG TO PUT THAT OPERATING SYSTEM. DO THEY HAVE PROPRIETARY OPERATING SYSTEM TO GO, WOULD THEY BUY ONE, LOOK FOR SOMETHING ELSE. THAT IS QUESTION HUAWEI IS PUTTING OUT RIGHT NOW. THE ANSWER IS FASCINATING FOR THE FUTURE OF SMARTPHONE OPERATING SYSTEMS. DAVID: VERY QUICKLY, DO WE END UP, JEREMY, PUT ON THE MAGIC CAP WHERE YOU SEE INTO THE FUTURE. DO WE ENDP WITH A DEAL THAT GIVES HUAWEI A BREAK FROM WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH HUAWEI?>>I DON’T KNOW. I WAS FASCINATED BY THE FACT THERE WAS A SIGNAL THAT WE COULD WRAP HUAWEI INTO THE REST OF THE U.S. CHINA TRADE NEGOTIATIONS, RIGHT? DAVID: YEAH.>>I DID NOT SEE THAT. I SAW THOSE AS TWO DIFFERENT TRACKS. HUAWEI GOING MORE WITH WHAT WE’VE DONE EIGHT TO 10 YEARS TO PROTECT OUR TECH INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY AND TRADE BEING SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. BRINGING THOSE TWO IN TOGETHER I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THAT WILL GO, WHAT WILL LEAD TO THAT I WOULD HAVE TO THINK YOU CAN’T WRAP HUAWEI IN, ONCE YOU DO, WHAT HAPPENS THEN WITH HOW FAR WE HAVE ALREADY GONE DOWN THIS ROAD? NO TELLING IF THAT GETS WRAPPED INTO THE TRADE DEAL WHERE WE GO FROM THERE OR GO BACK TO STATUS

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  1. Sure, America don't still from others! China 2025 is coming. Would love to see the Chinese decimate American high tech!

    America plays the dirty game when they can beat others!

  2. Greece stole from Africa (Kemit/Egypt), Western-Europe stole from Greece, US stole from Western Europe. And every thief has something to add. Why the hullabaloo about China stealing from US?

  3. Huawei will be busy developing their operating system while US will be busy mining rare earths. 🙂

  4. Fox: 1:05 They get very good at replicating what we do, but they are not very good at innovation…they are better at replicating that "THAN WE ARE" …
    China: We invented gunpowder 2000 years ago…
    Huawei: We have double the amount of IP patents than all the US IT-companies combined (facts). We proposed to invest in the US but got banned and still got accused of theft and spying without proof (suspicions)…
    Fox: FAKE NEWS!
    US citizens: (GAME of Thrones music) Shame! Shame! Shame!
    Trump: Where is my 6G I asked for?
    The world: …

  5. I hope that huawei can develop a 100% clean Android OS apk compatible so that I can use an alternative app store as I do know .. 700 million phones sold this would be brilliant.. Large hole on Google finance

  6. Fox news is very bias and do not give the whole story, Fedex got caught diverting packages from Huawei Japan to the State.. what would the United State do if that was the other way round?

  7. Fox news or puppet news. Stop repeating and show evidence, it's time for you to be more respectful to the American people.

  8. China will develop it's own OS for smart pones and this will sink Google as Huawei is the second largest phone maker in the world behind Samsung and ahead of Apple so when all of Asia and Europe switch over to Huawei's new OS that will be the end of Google and Android

  9. Huawei not better at innovation? Huawei is holding more patents in 5G tech-are you saying the patent office is coniving with Huawei for this patents?

  10. most dump president on planet. China make very thing with american component and software , now they build themself that mean you lost control on china

  11. I think Huawe steals to catch up with the competitors not that they don't innovate. Once they are caught up, they innovate. Huawe 5G is the the proof as their technology is ahead of anyone.

  12. I believe Foc New will be the first to be banned. That makes America going back to stone age. 😁

  13. FedEx is the worst place to work. They will gangstalk and workplace mob you if you complain about the way they treat you.

  14. Universities in the USA have been a source for training engineers in many areas for the last 60 years. I bet you China has more PhD graduates than US. Not only China, but Pakistan, India, Europe, America, they all go to the US to study. All on student visa courtesy of Fulbright Institute, as part of US policy to educate and reintegrate professionals sharing our value system and be easily manipulated. It is not like the spy who stole it and sold it. We learned it from you. You should be happy!

  15. funny,this dude said china don't have any innovation and then he said china stealing USA's innovation to create China's innovation which USA doesn't have? how come I china stealing some thing USA doesn't have from USA? what fcked up logic this man has

  16. Only Idiots will buy a chines mad phone with a Chinese Operating System (Software) in it , people have to investigate and catch up their know on how Chinese communist party operate or direct every single company an person in Chines, then people have to understand how this same Chinese communist party principles expanding Globally !, Anyone with a brain and love to democracy agree with these Chinese behavior and their companies ? , China need to democratize their country and practice good manners by the Chinese people or World is going to reject them day after day !

  17. It is the unique gene that only American have to innovate, no otherwise. Therefore, if there is any innovation is not out of American it must be stolen! What kind of eroded thinking process of the mindless brain it is!

  18. fact:huawei is rethinking their partnership with FedEx after packages to China diverted to US without acknowledge Huawei.

    Start the program: Huawei is retaliate FedEx, Nike etc.

    Followed by: Nike and etc. Will be impacted.

    No FedEx mentioned any more.

    Nice!

  19. These presenters thinking US are winning this trade war, haha 😂 😂😂😂 US deserve everything that’s coming to them which is the decline of them and China been the no.1 economic power.

  20. One of the reasons I can’t take Trump seriously is his make stuff up when he needs . One minute North Korea leader is a really nice guy and Nigel Farage are good people. Huawei haven’t done anything apart from make really good Affordable stuff. Thank goodness this loon of pres only has Year left.

  21. With What Google is doing to Huiwei, I bet Chinese phone makers will start to use Huiwei OS as backup as well.

  22. What the evil empire, USA, the most hated nation in the world, they are behind in technology,
    But one thing are getting better in destroying countries, and killing, and the list goes on, now is Iran 🇮🇷, Venezuela 🇻🇪 by blocking their economies, they are starving millions, of people, thank God, Russia 🇷🇺 and China 🇨🇳 are there to stop them.

  23. Hahahaha… Innovation? You guys are better? And why Huawei has 5G and way better devices than American's?

  24. US companies went to China to exploit cheap labor. Now they are complaining of IP theft.
    Because of American greed to use Chinese labor and resources they forget that they are selling their soul to China. Chinese thinks in the long term, they are ready for a long march. One step
    backward two step forward….

  25. Fedex, google, facebook, tweeter all are instrument of the US for Spying, and China is a threat to US national security because if you buy Huawei , US can not spy on you!!!!!!

  26. Reading the comments, it's like people from every country in the whole world is against America now, LOL.
    The whole world except US republican Trump supports, that is.

  27. American Logic:
    If we are more advanced, they are stealing from us.
    If they are more advanced, it's because they stole from us.
    …amazing

  28. Hate to say the U.S. is Still the strongest nation now. They do have an upper hand. In chip industry, we are not ready. But that ugly smile of that guest is disgusting. And also seems fake and unnatural.

  29. Huawei phones age better than Samsun and Apple. Ive seen the light. I have a mate 9 since it came out and it works just as fast as the day it came out.

  30. total distortion of the story by missing out the reason why huawei are reconsidering their relationship with Fedex. Fedex diverted packages going from Japan to China, via the US. They also attempted to do the same to packaged from Vietnam to china. Why would you trust fedex when your packages are going to the US

  31. Facts: Fedex systematically diverting 4 Huawei Asia packages (between Japan, Vietnam, China)to Fedex US HQ. Its founder n chairman Frederick Smith was a Marine Corps Captian. By US govt and Fox logic, can we say Fedex must be working unddr the US govt instruction?

  32. FOX again…. Huawei already have an OS. China is an innovative country. Why would China make something that they can buy that's already out there. With this trade war, China just need to roll them out.

  33. no wonder theres are so many Americans still believe China steals tech from the US. People like this Owen guy need to face the reality. China bought outdated tech from US years ago and build on it. Huawei spent years and years to develop their tech so ppl got to give them credit. Regarding getting subsidies from China, doesn't US bail out their own banks? auto industries? real estate company? the farmers? So, do all this companies work for the US government? Does US banks spy on the Chinese company who has account and money transactions in their bank?

  34. I worked for Huawei 7 years, they are a very good company and has the RND to overcome all obstacles

  35. every Huawei employee work very hard, till 10 pm everyday, and thats the secret to the companies success, commitment

  36. I worked for Siemens Telecom and Nokia, They simply cannot compete with Huawei products

  37. Huawei is very strict to apply rules, any one that violate this as a Huawei employee will not just be fired, but aslo face the law. One of my previous colleagues face 7 months jail term for breaking Huawei`s BCG rules.

  38. a theft calls someone else as a theft. Boss REN Zhengfei agrees that they steal 5G from someone. But does someone have 5G? what a funny

  39. Why us Americans cant tolerate seeing world improvement?
    Why no one else is allowed to have what we have OR have what we want to have, and if they have it we start bullying them?
    Why dont we just improve our self instead of trying to hold back the world???
    Why are we bumping head with the whole world?

    Why??
    Why cant we mind our own business and make our own country a better place instead of worry about other countries improvements?

    All this these bumping heads with the world that our governors are spending off is making us poorer! and its useless…
    No one can stop anyone one from improvements in this world of free information!
    All this money that is spend on stopping others could be spent on our self in getting better!

    If china is doing better in something let them do it and we invest in what we can do better than china!

    Whats the big deal?

  40. The company founder /CEO Frederick W. Smith was a captain of the US marine Corp. Therefore, based on the Trump's logic, must be tie to the US military, must have US government backing, spy for the US government. Also they are national security for the rest of the world as they can substitute weapon and destructive material in their packages. They can act as a backdoor, as they can fly into any country carrying the US military as a Express company. But of course I will not believe this, as there must be prove that they work for the US Gov. We can not just accused the company without any hard evidence.

  41. Mother fuckers Amrcians you didn't even have invented 5G and now you're lying about Havaves most advanced technology because you can't compete with it

  42. Huawei come back on new os so it’s gonna make an third on market so we don’t wanna depend on USA

  43. "China replicate to such a point they get ahead in 5g"??? Wtf? You have f'k all 5G. What are you smoking?

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