Trump holds off on approved strikes on Iran


THEY’VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 39 YEARS.>>CHARLES: PRESIDENT TRUMP ORDERED A RETALIATORY ATTACK YESTERDAY BUT THEN CALLED IT OFF AT THE LAST MINUTE. HE COMMENTED ON THIS YESTERDAY. TAKE A LISTEN.>>IRAN MADE A BIG MISTAKE. THEY MADE A VERY BAD MISTAKE.>>.>>[ INDISCERNIBLE ]>>YOU’LL FIND OUT.>>ARE YOU WILLING TO GO TO WAR WITH THEM?>>YOU’LL FIND OUT. YOU’LL FIND OUT. I HAVE A FEELING, I MAY BE WRONG AND I MAY BE RIGHT, BUT I’M RIGHT A LOT. I HAVE A FEELING IT WAS A MISTAKE MADE BY SOMEBODY THAT SHOULDN’T HAVE BEEN DOING WHAT THEY DID.>>[ INDISCERNIBLE ]>>I DON’T KNOW. I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE IT WAS INTENTIONAL, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH. I THINK IT COULD HAVE BEEN SOMEBODY WHO WAS LOOSE AND STUPID THAT DID IT.>>CHARLES: JOINING ME NOW, PENNSYLVANIA CONGRESSMAN, FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE MEMBER AND IRAQ VETERAN, SCOTT PERRY. THANKS FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING. HELP US UNPACK WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST 24 HOURS OR SO.>>I DO THINK THAT THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T WANT TO GO TO WAR BUT AS YOUR OTHER HOSTS SAY, THE IRANIANS HAVE BEEN DOING THIS TO US FOR 39 OR 40 YEARS. WEAKNESS IS PROVOCATIVE AND THEY’VE SEEN NO SIGN OF STRENGTH FROM THE UNITED STATES FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY’RE TESTING THE LIMITS OF THIS PRESIDENT. THEY’RE TRYING TO PROVIDE MORE SPACE FOR GOOD DEAL FOR THEM, PROVIDE BARGAINING SPACE, A PLACE TO COME BACK TORQUES THAT’S WHY THE ESCALATION. ONCE THEY ESCALATE, THEY CAN DROP DOWN. I WILL SAY I DON’T NECESSARILY THINK IT WAS A MISTAKE BUT AS I GUY WHO HAS FLOWN ON BORDER, THERE’S NO LINE. THE IRANIANS WILL FIRE AT YOU IF YOU GET CLOSE. WE HAVE ABSOLUTE — WE LIVED THROUGH THAT. BUT I THINK THERE’S PROBABLY MORE TO THE STORY HERE AND THE PRESIDENT HAS PROVIDED SOME SPACE. THERE’S SOMETHING GOING OF ON BEHIND THE SCENES AND THE OTHER SHOE IS GOING TO DROP. IT MIGHT BE MILITARY BUT IT REALLY MIGHT NOT BE. I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF LEVERS THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS TO PULL ON INDIVIDUALS IN IRAN, ON FINANCIAL ISSUES THAT REALLY ARE GOING TO BE CRIPPLING. I THINK HE CAN TURN THE SCREWS DOWN A LOT MORE THAN HE HAS ALREADY AND IT DOESN’T NECESSARILY MEAN MILITARY INVOLVEMENT. THAT IS THE FINAL PUSH WHEN YOU GET TO THE MILITARY, BUT EVEN AT THAT, THERE ARE STAGES THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND SO I THINK THERE’S STILL A LOT OF ROOM HERE TO GET TO WHERE WE WANT TO GET TO. THE QUESTION IS, ARE THE IRANIANS REALLY SERIOUS AT ALL?>>CHARLES: CONGRESSMAN, IT FEELS LIKE WHEN THOSE INITIAL OIL-WHEN THE WAIVERS WERE REMOVED, IT SEEMS THERE’S A SERIOUS CORRELATION TO STEPPED UP ACTS OF PROVOCATION, THE TANKERS, THE ACTIONS IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. IT FEELS LIKE MAYBE THAT’S WHEN IRAN STARTED TO REALLY STEP THIS L WHOLE WHWHOLE WHOLOLE WHOLELE WHOLE THING UP. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER — I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THEY KNOW THEY WOULD LOSE IN A SERIOUS MILITARY CONFRONTATION WITH US. I HEARD ONE THING THEY THINK THEY WOULD WIN, THOUGH, IS NATIONALISM. THEY’VE GOT SERIOUS ISSUES WITHIN THEIR OWN COUNTRY, THAT THIS MAY BE A WAY TO REGALVANIZE THE COUNTRY AND MAYBE QUELL SOME DESCENT. COULD THAT BE PART OF THEIR STRATEGY?>>I DO THINK THAT’S PART OF IT. WITH THE PROTESTS GOING ON, THIS MAKES A COMMON ENEMY FOR ALL THE CITIZENS. THERE’S A LOT OF PEACE AND FREEDOM-LOVING IRANIAN THAT’S WOULD LOVE TO GET RID OF THE REGIME. THIS KIND OF DOES HELP TO GALVANIZE THEM IN THAT. THEY’VE GOT A TOUGH NUT TO CRACK HERE BECAUSE AS YOU SAID EARLIER, WITH THE ENERGY DOMINANCE OF AMERICA AND AMERICA EXPORTING, THEY DON’T HAVE THE INFLUENCE THAT THEY USED TO HAVE IN THE ENERGY MARKETS AND YOU CAN HE CAN SEE JUST THE PRICES AT THE PUMP AREN’T AS INCHES FLENSED AS THEY USED TO BE. — INFLUENCED AS THEY USED TO BE. THE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT ARE RECEIVING IRANIAN OIL ARE GOING TO SEE THE PINCH, NOT AMERICA. WE’RE REALLY IN THE DRIVER’S SEAT. IRAN KNOWS IT. THEY’VE GOT TO PLAY IT CAREFULLY WITHOUT GETTING INTO A MILITARY CONFLICT.>>CHARLES: A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WEIGHED IN ON THIS, PARTICULARLY THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE, ARE SAYING WE NEED TO GET OUR ALLIES INVOLVED. EVERY TIME I HEAR OF THAT, I THINK OF THE YELLOW FLAG, MAYBE RED FLAG. I’M NOT SURE OUR ALLIES MOVE FAST ENOUGH OR IF THEY’RE ON THE SAME PAGE WE’RE ON.>>I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. IF YOU LOOK AT COMMON HISTORY OVER THE LAST 3 # OVER THE LAST 39# OVER THE LAST 39 YEARS, FOLKS WHO WE THOUGHT WERE OUR ALLIES, WE FOUND OUT THEY WERE DOING A LOT OF BUSINESS WITH IRAN, WHICH LED TO DEATH OF AMERICAN CITIZENS, WHETHER IN IRAQ OR ELSEWHERE. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN OUR ALLIES ARE INVOLVED. SOMETIMES THEY’RE NOT QUITE THE FRIEND WE HOPED THEY WOULD BE. IT’S BETTER WHEN AMERICA DRIVES THE TRAIN AND SETS THE CONDITIONS. AS LONG AS WE DO THAT, I THINKAL LIES CAN BE INVOLVED — ALLIES CAN BE INVOLVED, BUT WE HAVE TO LEAD. IN THE PAST, WE HAVE NOT BEEN THERE. I SAID WEAKNESS IS PROVOCATIVE AND IRAN IS TESTING THIS ADMINISTRATION TO SEE IF IT’S LIKE ALL THE REST WHO HAVE TALKED BIG AND DELIVERED LITTLE. I SUSPECT THEY’LL FIND SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THIS PRESIDENT AS PORT MORT MOST OF THE WORLD HAS RECENTLY SEEN.>>CHARLES: THE FAA HAS BANNED CARRIERS FROM FLYING OVER IRAN. YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?>>IT’S ALL ABOUT TURNING THE SCREWS DOWN ON IRAN AND ISOLATING THEM. THAT’S ONE MORE MEASURE. THEY WANT TO BE PART OF THE WORLD AND WANT TO BE ABLE TO SHIP STUFF IN AND OUT, WHETHER THROUGH THE GROUND, AIR OR THE SEA AND IT’S ONE MORE HURDLE THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND EXPLAIN TO THEIR PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING UNDER THE JOKE OF THE THEOLOGICAL TOTALITARIAN REGIME WHERE THEIR LIFE THOSE BE SO MISERABLE, IT MAKES IT TOUGH FOR THEM TO RULE. THAT’S THE POINT HERE. CHANGE HOW YOU ACT AND ALL THIS WILL END. YOU KEEP ON THREATENING NEIGHBORS AND KILLING OUR ALLIES AND FRIENDS, THEN YOU’RE GOING

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