The division of wealth in America


WELCOME BACK. I HAD THE CHANCE TO TALK TO WRITER AND PHOTOGRAPHER CHRIS ABOUT HIS TRAVELS ACROSS OUR NATION DOCUMENTING THOSE FORGOTTEN MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN LEFT BEHIND BY THE COASTAL ELITE PARTICULATE.>>THIS BOOK YOU’VE WRITTEN, I WOULD MAKE SURE, THIS IS SEEKING RESPECT IN BACK WORLD AMERICA. WERE GOING TO GET INTO THAT BUT I WANT EVERYONE TO SEE THIS BOOK AND THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE WATCHING, YOU’RE ALL GOING TO ENJOY THIS BOOK BUT PARTICULARLY ANYONE IN THE POSITION OF POWER OR AUTHORITY IN GOVERNMENT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL OR ANY LEVEL. YOU REALLY NEED TO READ THIS BOOK. IT’S INCREDIBLY POWERFUL AND WERE NOT HAVE TIME TO GET INTO ALL THE IMPORTANT INSIGHTS IN HERE, BUT LET’S JUST START WITH THE BIG PICTURE. YOU MAKE THIS DISTINCTION BETWEEN FRONT ROW AMERICA AND BACK ROW AMERICA. FRONT ROW IS HIGHLY EDUCATED ELITES, PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE TO HARVARD, PRINCETON, YALE, POSTGRADUATE DEGREES AND AFTER THAT LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE BASICALLY FILLED WITH PEOPLE LIKE THEMSELVES.>>WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, IN TERMS OF MAPPING THAT IN THE ELITE, THAT’S REALLY THE FRONT ROW.>>THAT’S CORRECT, PEOPLE EMPOWER IN GOVERNMENT AND THE ECONOMY.>>THINK BAKERS AND POLITICIANS.>>LET’S LOOK AT THE BACKROAD PART. IT WAS REALLY STRIKING TO ME READING THIS BOOK THE REAL DEPTH OF THE PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE IN AMERICA TODAY SUFFER. WE TALK ABOUT WORKING AMERICANS, THE WORKING POOR, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AN EVEN MORE SUFFERING GROUP OF THE POPULATION IN THE WORKING CLASS.>>I WOULD CALL IT THE WORKING POOR BUT IN GENERAL IT SOMEONE WHO HAS FINISHED HIGH SCHOOL, PROPERLY, BUT NOT MUCH BEYOND THAT. I THINK THE BIG DIFFERENCES WHAT DEFINES PEOPLE. SO MUCH ABOUT WHAT WE THINK IN OUR MORALITY, AT THE CORE OF EVERYTHING IS HOW EDUCATED YOU ARE.>>THERE’S AN IMAGE STRUCTURALLY THAT HAUNTED ME WHEN I WAS READING THIS BOOK. IT OCCURS TIME AND TIME AGAIN ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND IT’S THIS NOTION OF THE ELITES, THE FRONT ROW PEOPLE DESIGNING AN ECONOMIC SYSTEM THAT MADE CORPORATIONS BIGGER AND BIGGER AND MORE GLOBALIZED, THE IMPACT OF THAT IS IN SMALL TOWNS AND MEDIUM-SIZED TOWNS ACROSS AMERICA AND THE PLACES YOU VISITED, THAT LED TO THIS GENERAL COLLAPSE OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, AND THEN, AT THE SAME TIME THE IMPACT OF THAT FOR PEOPLE WHO DESIGN THOSE CHANGES TO MAKE THEM RICHER AND MAKE THEIR COMMUNITIES THRIVE. WHILE THE PEOPLE WHO HAD TO SUFFER THOSE POLICIES END UP WITH COMMUNITIES AND BIG-BOX RETAILERS. JUST DESCRIBE SOME OF THE PLACES WHERE YOU SAW THAT.>>IT’S ALL ACROSS AMERICA. IT’S NOT GEOGRAPHICALLY BOUND. I WOULD SAY. [INAUDIBLE] THEY GO THROUGH THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IT’S GARY INDIANA.>>JUST DESCRIBE THAT FOR A BIT WHAT YOU SAW THERE.>>IT’S WORKING CLASS AFRICAN-AMERICAN TOWN WITH STEEL MILLS, IT’S ONE THIRD OF THE CITY BOARDED UP. I DO WANT TO PICK ON GARY BECAUSE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE STILL THEY ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE AND THEY’RE DOING THEIR BEST THAT’S WHAT I TRY TO GET ACROSS, DON’T BLAME THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE IN YOUR TOWN, DON’T STIGMATIZE THE RESIDENCE FOR THE PROBLEMS THAT HAPPEN IN THE TOWN, BUT GARY, THERE ARE TIMES WHERE I WALK IN GARY AND I DON’T SEE ANYBODY. I JUST SAW BOARDED-UP HOUSES. I DIDN’T EVEN SEE, I’M USED TO BEING IN NEIGHBORHOODS WITH BOARDED-UP HOUSES BUT OFTEN THERE’S PEOPLE LIVING THERE. THERE WERE JUST EMPTY PLOTS OF LAND.>>AND DOWNTOWN GARY.>>ON SATURDAY OR SUNDAY THE CHURCHES ARE OPEN SO THAT HAS SOME ENERGY BUT OTHERWISE IT’S GENERALLY A BUNCH OF ATTEMPTS TO RE- VITALIZE GARY AND IT FAILED. THERE’S AN OLD CONVENTION CENTER THERE THAT DOESN’T GET MANY CONVENTIONS, BUT THERE’S A USUAL LIQUOR STORE, VAPE STORE AND THEN THERE’S MCDONALD’S AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT, WE DESIGN THESE TOWNS AND MAKE A LOT OF MONEY, WE DESIGNED AN ECONOMY ALL ABOUT BIG-BOX STORES BUT THIS IRONY, THE EVEN WORSE THINGS IS THAT WE DON’T USE THEM. WE MAKE FUN OF THE PEOPLE WHO USE THEM SO IF YOU GO INTO GARY, PEOPLE USE THE MCDONALD’S AS THEIR COMMUNITY CENTER BECAUSE IT’S THE ONE THING THAT IS THERE AN OPEN AND ALWAYS WORKING. THE ELITES BUILD THIS ECONOMY THAT FILLED GARY AND OTHER TOWNS, BAKERSFIELD, EL PASO, RENO, IT FILLS THEM WITH THESE BIG-BOX STORES, BUT THEN WE LAUGH AT PEOPLE WHO USE THE BIG BOX STORES THAT IT SOMEHOW BENEATH.>>AND THE MCDONALD’S POINT WHICH IS SO POWERFUL, IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND AMERICA, GO TO MCDONALD’S. I LOVE MCDONALD’S. I CAN GO EVERY WEEK TO MCDONALD’S. ONE THING THAT STRUCK ME ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND CANDIDATE DONALD TRUMP, ONE OF THE REASONS THEY MADE FUN OF HIM WAS THAT HE LIKES MCDONALD’S AND I REMEMBER THINKING BUT THAT’S A CONNECTION WITH AMERICANS THAT THE ELITES JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND. THAT YOU’RE EMBARRASSED TO SAY I LIKE MCDONALD’S AND THE BIGGER POINT FROM THIS IS THAT WERE NOT ALLOWED TO BE PRESENT PREJUDICE ABOUT ANYTHING. EXCEPT FOR COST. IT’S PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE TO LOOK DOWN YOUR NOSE AT WORKING AMERICANS. YOU COULD MAKE FUN OF THE POOR, BASICALLY, AND YOU DO IT THESE DAYS BY MAKING FUN OF THEIR CHOICES.>>I SAID BEFORE WE STARTED THIS THERE’S NO WAY WE WILL HAVE TIME OR GET INTO EVERYTHING. I’M AFRAID WE’LL HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE, THAT SO MANY RICH INSIGHTS HERE, IT’S JUST AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT BOOK. IN THE FATE AGAIN, PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING THAT AFFECTS POLICY, READ THIS BOOK. YOU SAY YOU’RE NOT A POLICY GUY, AND THAT’S ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT A LOT ON THE SHOW AND THERE’S A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON ON THIS INCREDIBLE BOOK BUT FOR NOW, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.>>THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.>>ALL RIGHT. LET’S TALK A BIT ABOUT KATRINA. THAT GUY, HE’S NO TRUMP SUPPORTER HE USED TO WORK ON WALL STREET AND IS A DEMOCRAT BUT HE DISCOVERED CANDIDATE TRUMP UNDERSTOOD AND FELT THAT THESE POLICIES HAVE RIPPED THE HEART OUT OF COMMUNITY ACROSS COMMUNITY AND PRESIDENT TRUMP SPOKE AND UNDERSTOOD THAT MANUFACTURING WAS REALLY A BIG PART OF US.>>IT WAS A HUGE PART OF IT. MY HEART GOES OUT TO COMMUNITIES LIKE THAT. MANY COMMUNITIES ARE LIKE THAT, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE COMMUNITIES AND TEACH THEM THAT THEY THEMSELVES ARE ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE WHEN YOU CONSTANTLY ELECT, AS PRESIDENT TRUMP FAMOUSLY SAID, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE, HE HAS TOLD THESE COMMUNITIES YOU HAVE VOTED FOR DEMOCRATS FOR NEARLY 40 YEARS AND THEIR COMMUNITIES HAVE JUST GONE FURTHER DOWN THE DRAIN. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY NOW WITH DONALD TRUMP TO FIX ALL OF THAT. IF THEY COME TO THE TABLE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITY ZONES OUT THERE. IVANKA TRUMP AND WORKFORCE INITIATIVES, THERE ARE SO MANY RESOURCES AVAILABLE MADE BY PRESIDENT TRUMP TO TURN BACK THE TIME AND A SENSE OF MAKING GARY INDIANA GREAT AGAIN. THE QUESTION IS, ARE THE PEOPLE OF GARY INDIANA GOING TO FINALLY VOTE REPUBLICAN SO THEIR LIVES CAN FINALLY CHANGE.>>ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND ON THE CAMPAIGN, REMEMBER BARACK OBAMA A MONTH BEFORE SAID. [INAUDIBLE]>>MAYBE HE DOES HAVE A MAGIC WAND BECAUSE NOW YOU GO TO THESE TOWNS AND YOU DO SEE A LOT OF THESE JOBS COMING BACK. YOU MENTIONED MANUFACTURING JOBS, WHAT ABOUT CONSTRUCTION.>>FROM PORTLAND OREGON TO PORTLAND MAINE, ALL YOU WOULD SEE IN CITIES, BUILDINGS BEING ERECTED, APARTMENT BUILDINGS, FACTORIES, WE ARE BUILDING THINGS IN AMERICA. IT’S A NICE THING TO SEE. REMEMBER HILLARY CLINTON, SHE WENT TO THESE TOWNS IN WEST VIRGINIA AND PENNSYLVANIA AND THEY SAID THE COLD JOBS ARE NEVER COMING BACK TO MORGAN A DESTROY EVERY COLD JOBS. SHE DIDN’T CARE ABOUT THOSE WORKERS BUT TRUMP SAID WERE COMING TO HELP SAVE YOUR JOBS.>>IN THE ENERGY REVOLUTION IS A BIG PART OF IT.>>YOU CAN EVEN UNDERSTAND THE AMERICAN ECONOMY OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS IF YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND THE SHALE OIL AND GAS REVOLUTIONS. WE’LL WIPE OUT ALL THE COAL JOBS AND NATURAL GAS JOBS, POWER JOBS POWER JBS POWER JOBS, IT’S AMAZING.>>YOU THINK IT’S CRAZY THE FIRST TIME IN THEM BERNIE SANDERS THE OTHER WEEK WAS SOMETHING EVEN MORE LOONY.>>IT GETS MORE AND MORE LOONY AS WE GO DOWN THIS PATH. I’M SURE THE NEXT YEAR WILL BE HILARIOUS.>>THAT’S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ELITISTS AND THE GROUP OF GENIUSES THAT HAVE RUN THE COUNTRY INTO THE GROUND. PEOPLE WHO SAY LET’S TAKE A STEP BACK, FIGURE OUT WHAT’S WRONG AND FIX IT.

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