Rep. Cicilline previews next steps in Dems’ impeachment inquiry

Rep. Cicilline previews next steps in Dems’ impeachment inquiry


♪ ♪>>Chris: IT’S A BIG WEEK ON CAPITOL HILL. ON MONDAY HOUSE INVESTIGATORS RESENT THEIR EVIDENCE ON IMPEACHMENT AT HEARING THE WHITE HOUSE HAS DECLINED TO TAKE PART IN. THAT SAME DAY THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT’S INSPECTOR GENERAL ISSUES HIS REPORT ON HOW THE FBI CONDUCTED THE RUSSIA PROBE AND THE IG, MICHAEL HOROWITZ, TESTIFIES TWO DAYS LATER. DRONING SNOW, CONGRESSMAN DAVID CICILLINE, A TOP MEMBER OF THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, WHICH WOULD WRITE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT. YOUNG HORSEMEN DEMOCRATS ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE MET THIS WEEKEND. IT IS THE PLAN AT THIS POINT TO VOTE OUT ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP BY THE END OF THIS WEEK?>>Representative Cicilline: WELL, I DON’T THINK WE KNOW — CHRIS, I DON’T THINK WE KNOW THE TIMING OF IT, BUT CERTAINLY THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WILL HEAR FROM THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE COUNSEL, WHO WILL DETAIL THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ATTEMPTED TO COERCE A FOREIGN LEADER TO INTERFERE IN AN AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, TO ASSIST HIM IN HIS REELECTION, UNDERMINING THE NATIONAL SECURITY OF THE UNITED STATES FOR HIS OWN BENEFIT. THIS IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE. IT WE KNOW THAT FROM THE SCHOLARS WE LISTEN TO, SO WE ARE GOING TO RECEIVE THE EVIDENCE CAREFULLY. WE ARE GOING TO EVALUATE THAT EVIDENCE AS IT APPLIES TO THE LAW THAT IS SET FORTH IN THE CONSTITUTION AND MAKE A JUDGMENT ABOUT WHAT ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT — BUT THE TIMETABLE I THINK IS LESS CLEAR.>>Chris: YOU TALK ABOUT EVIDENCE. WHILE THE COMMITTEE FOCUS JUST ON THE ALLEGED OFFENSES IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PRESIDENT DID IN UKRAINE, OR WILL YOU GO BACK, AS SOME DEMOCRATS ARE TALKING ABOUT, TO THE MUELLER REPORT AND WHAT IT ALLEGED ABOUT POTENTIAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE BY PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION, A SUBJECT WHICH IS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED AT ALL DURING THE LAST FEW MONTHS, REALLY HASN’T BEEN DISCUSSED AND CONGRESS SINCE LAST JULY WHEN ROBERT MUELLER TESTIFIED?>>Representative Cicilline: WELL, THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HAS COLLECTED AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE BOTH IN ITS OWN WORK AND NOW OF COURSE A 300 PAGE REPORT FROM THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE. I THINK IT WILL DEMONSTRATE AND DOES DEMONSTRATE A PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR BY THIS PRESIDENT TO SEEK FOREIGN ASSISTANCE INTERFERING IN AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND IN AN EFFORT TO OBSTRUCT CONGRESSES C EFFORT TO OBSTRUCT CONGRESSES N EFFORT TO OBSTRUCT CONGRESSES R EFFORT TO OBSTRUCT CONGRESSES S EFFORT TO OBSTRUCT CONGRESSES ‘ EFFORT TO OBSTRUCT CONGRESSES A REVIEW OF THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES SO WE WILL LOOK AT ALL OF THE MATERIAL WE COLLECTED, ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT IS BEEN GENERATED AND WE WILL MAKE A JUDGMENT BUT AGAIN, THE FOCUS IS ON THE PRESIDENT’S MISCONDUCT, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ASKING A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO INTERFERE IN AN AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. THIS REALLY IS WHAT OUR FOUNDER SPOKE ABOUT WHEN THEY WERE SPEAKING ABOUT IMPEACHMENT, ABOUT AN ABUSE OF POWER, ABOUT USING THE POWER OF THE PRESIDENCY TO ADVANCE YOUR OWN PERSONAL OR POLITICAL INTERESTS AHEAD OF THE NATIONAL ELECTION.>>Chris: JUST ANSWER MY QUESTION THOUGH, IF YOU COULD JUST ANSWER MY QUESTION IS ARE GOING TO BE JUST AN UKRAINE OR MAY YOU LOOK BACK AT THE RUSSIA PROBE AND POTENTIAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE THERE?>>Representative Cicilline: LOOK, I THINK ALL OF THE POTENTIAL ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT ON THE TABLE, THAT WILL BE A DECISION THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE MAKES IN CONSULTATION WITH THE CHAIRS OF THE RELEVANT COMMITTEES AND OBVIOUS THAT WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF THE HOUSE, BUT THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WILL HAVE ALL THE EVIDENCE AND WILL MAKE A JUDGMENT IN THE DECISION WILL BE MADE BY THE COMMITTEE AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.>>Chris: AS PART OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE’S REPORT EARLIER THIS WEEK, CHAIRMAN ADAM SCHIFF RELEASED PHONE LOGS OF TELEPHONE CALLS BETWEEN RUDY GIULIANI OR ONE OF HIS ASSOCIATES WITH THE CHAIR — OR RATHER THE REPUBLICAN, THE FORMER CHAIR OF THE HOUSE UNTIL COMMITTEE DEVIN NUNES AND ALSO WITH A REPORTER, JOHN SOLOMON. REPUBLICANS ARE PUSHING BACK HARD ON WHAT ADAM SCHIFF DID. HERE THEY ARE.>>I’VE NEVER SEEN A CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE ABUSE THEIR SUBPOENA POWER TO GO AFTER OTHER MEMBERS OF CONGRESS THAT THEY HAVE POLITICAL DISAGREEMENTS WITH OR MEMBERS OF THE PRESS THAT THEY HAVE POLITICAL DISAGREEMENTS WITH. THAT’S OVER THE LINE.>>Chris: IT CONGRESSMAN, IS THAT — IF I MAY ASK THE QUESTION FIRST, IS THAT THE NEW STANDARD, THAT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS CAN SUBPOENA PHONE RECORDS ON THE RELEASE THEM ABOUT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM THE OTHER PARTY OR MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA BECAUSE THAT TAKES INTO PRETTY DANGEROUS TERRITORY.>>Representative Cicilline: LOOK, THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HAS THE SOLEMN RESPONSIBILITY OF COLLECTING EVIDENCE RELEVANT TO THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, ALL THE EVIDENCE AND THE USE OF A LAWFUL PROCESS TO DO THAT. THE REAL QUESTION IS WHY IT IS THE REPUBLICAN RANKING MEMBER OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE ENGAGED IN A CONVERSATION WITH LES PARNASSUS AND OTHERS AND WHY IS HE PARTICIPATING IN SOMEWHERE IN THE VERY SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS INQUIRY? THAT’S THE REALLY ALARMING DEVELOPMENT AS OF THE COMMITTEE HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO COLLECT ALL THE EVIDENCE AND TO CAREFULLY EVALUATE IT TO USE LAWFUL PROCESS TO DO IT AND I WISH MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES WERE AS CONCERNED ABOUT EVIDENCE COLLECTION AND WHAT THE EVIDENCE SHOWED RATHER THAN THE EMBARRASSMENT TO ONE OF THEIR COLLEAGUES.>>Chris: BUT, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU OPEN THE STORE, EVERYBODY’S GOING TO GO THROUGH IT SO WHEN THE REPUBLICANS ARE IN THE MAJORITY, YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEM SUBPOENAING YOUR PHONE RECORDS AND FINDING OUT WHO YOU’VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH?>>Representative Cicilline: I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT A COMMITTEE OF JURISDICTION COLLECT ALL OF THE RELEVANT EVIDENCE, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE’RE FOCUSED ON SOMETHING AS DEADLY SERIOUS AS IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDING. THIS IS A SERIOUS PROCEEDING. WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO COLLECT ALL THE EVIDENCE, WHATEVER IT IS, EVALUATED, APPLY THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISIONS AND WHEN YOU DO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE PRESIDENT’S CONTINUING — REALLY A CONTINUOUS THREAT TO OUR ELECTIONS, TO THE INTEGRITY OF OUR DEMOCRACY, AND WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE PROCEEDINGS. NO ONE RUNS FOR CONGRESS TO IMPEACH A PRESIDENT, WE ARE FACED WITH A VERY, VERY SERIOUS SET OF MISCONDUCT BY THIS PRESIDENT, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO HONOR OUR OATH OF OFFICE, TO PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, WAS SIMPLE I CANNOT ALLOW PRESIDENT OR ANY PRESIDENT TO INVITE FOREIGN INTERFERENCE IN OUR ELECTIONS. YOU KNOW WHO GETS TO DECIDE OUR ELECTIONS? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY, NOT ANY FOREIGN POWER. THAT’S WHAT SEPARATES OUR GREAT COUNTRY FROM AUTHORITARIAN COUNTRIES ALL OVER THE WORLD.>>Chris: CONGRESSMAN, SOME MODERATE DEMOCRATS, ESPECIALLY SOME WHO WERE ELECTED IN SWING DISTRICTS THAT DONALD TRUMP CARRIED IN 2016, ARE TALKING OPENLY ABOUT VOTING AGAINST IMPEACHMENT IF IT GETS TO THE HOUSE FLOOR. AS A MEMBER OF DEMOCRATIC HOUSE LEADERSHIP, ARE YOU SURE THAT THE DEMOCRATS NOW HAVE THE 216 VOTES THEY WOULD NEED TO IMPEACH THIS PRESIDENT?>>Representative Cicilline: I THINK THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THE EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED DURING THE COURSE OF THIS INVESTIGATION OR THIS INQUIRY IS OVERWHELMING AND UNCONTESTED, THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SOUGHT FOREIGN INTERFERENCE TO HELP IN HIS REELECTION.>>Chris: CONGRESSMAN I’M RUNNING OUT OF TIME SO I’M GOING TO THERE. I’M NOT TALKING WITH EVIDENCE, I’M TALKING WHAT DO YOU HAVE THE VOTES?>>Representative Cicilline: I FULLY EXPECT THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS WILL ACCEPT THAT EVIDENCE AND WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT. THE REAL QUESTION IS WHY IS THE PART OF RONALD REAGAN THAT PREVAILED IN THE COLD WAR WILLING TO ACCEPT THIS KIND OF FOREIGN INTERFERENCE IN OUR ELECTIONS?>>Chris: FINALLY, THE INSPECTOR GENERAL, MICHAEL HOROWITZ, ISSUES HIS REPORT TOMORROW AND ON THE RUSSIA PROBE AND HE REPORTEDLY FINDS THAT THE FBI HAD ADEQUATE CAUSE TO PURSUE THAT INVESTIGATION. HE APPARENTLY FINDS SERIOUS MISCONDUCT, EVEN PERHAPS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY ON THE PART OF SOME LOWER-LEVEL PEOPLE, BUT HE SAYS THAT THE TOP LEADERSHIP OF THE FBI AND OTHER AGENCIES WERE NOT GUIDED BY POLITICAL BIAS. DO YOU EXPECT THAT TO END THE DEBATE OVER WHETHER OR NOT THE FBI WAS SPYING ON THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IN 2016 AS ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR CONTENDS?>>Representative Cicilline: YOU WOULD HOPE THAT IT WOULD FINALLY END THIS KIND OF SILLY CLAIM THAT BEEN MADE REPEATEDLY BY THE PRESIDENT AND HIS ALLIES. THE REPORT IS GOING TO SAY THE FBI WAS FULLY JUSTIFIED IN ITS INVESTIGATION OF THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN BUT SADLY WE HAVE SEEN BEFORE THAT FACTS SOMETIMES DON’T MATTER, THAT THEY STAND IN THE WAY OF THESE ARGUMENTS THAT THEY’RE MAKING IN AN ATTEMPT TO DEFEND THE PRESIDENT’S GRAVE MISCONDUCT. I HOPE IT PUTS AN END TO IT ONCE AND FOR ALL BUT WILL WILL HAVE TO SEE.>>Chris: CONGRESSMAN

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  1. I don't always agree with President Trump. But I will give credit where credit is due.
    At the Christmas Tree lighting.
    At least he gave acknowledgement the the Cross and saying Merry Christmas.

  2. It's great we don't live in a Socialist society like the Commies/Nazi's had. We can turn off FOX when they stray, and tune back in when Hannity/others are on.
    ????✝️

  3. 5:10 excellent point by Wallace.
    As a civil libertarian this concerns me greatly. The DOJ is being used as a political weapon by each party, and l am afraid this will never end.

  4. WOW! 8 minutes and 41 seconds……..and the only thing that video clip proves is that the Democrat's are STILL batshit crazy.

  5. Oh I can't wait. Schiff opened a can of worms the rest of the Democrats are going to live to regret. As the old saying goes, "Don't Poke the Sleeping Bear!" Schiff not only poked it but he kicked it!

  6. Another hard ball interview by Wallace. I love how he vigorously challenged the hair brained assertions of the quack from the important state of RI

  7. I respect Chris Wallace! This was an honest and fair interview. 2) I don't see any reason not to use all the evidence from the Mueller report. We did pay for it! 3) I am glad to know about the phone records with Rudy. Nunes is involved in the cover up. Nunes should resign and stop suing everyone with ridiculous "slap suits". 4) If the GOP did not stone wall, we would not need to subpoena phone records. But I don't mind if it is done to both sides either.

  8. Collins skating around the facts sounds mr collins but even if he dont get impeached and i dont expect one you cant change the fact that the feds have been on to him for along time and there coming. This hearing is a joke only becuse you Republicans are doing everything under the sun to avoid the truth and you cant. And you cant avoid the feds when they come for you either

  9. The facts are right there. But i dont exspect an impeachment alot of people dont. But his problems are far from over even if they dont get rid of him

  10. If for some dumb reason he does get re elected your gonna see a horror show in this country thats the word. But id doubt very much he'll get in again.

  11. Someone needs to tell Chris Wallace that Fox works for Trump and is supposed to be an echo chamber. Tow the line Chris or go to CNN

  12. Why does Wallace allow this guy to just LIE! Just because you repeat a lie over and over doesn't make them all of a sudden become true!

  13. That worm needs the stuffing beat out of him. He acts like a child during hearings, but then again most democrats do.

  14. What evidence? all the hearsay. If you're going to look at all the evidence you need to look at Biden, Schiff the whistleblower.

  15. The Republican's rhetoric makes me sick. They can't prove Donald Trump innocent (because he isn't) so they spew all this b.s. doubt because all they can do is show doubt in the facts because the truth is damning to the ENTIRE Republican party. So far I'm 4 years into never visiting the states and my life has never been better. Stay away from that twilight zone of a country.

  16. Anyway im done with it i dont exspect a impeachment at all its all to corrupt. But its gonna hit the fan little bit down the road all these sxumbags are done

  17. Yea he can and did fire Muller becuse Muller was on to him and all them cocksmokers hes fired everyone who found out about his crimes that right there proves guilt beyond a reason of a doubt

  18. How dare Pres Trump challenge the absolute supremacy and infallibility of the Democratic Party! Who does this interloper think that he is. He spoiled the coronation of their queen. Holding the highest office is her divine right. The peasant masses must be controlled and when they dare to get out of line, they must be punished and subjugated! Thine rulers have spoken. The US literally fought two wars about this.

  19. The Dems are looking for the exit ramp. They are just learning that what Nunes stated about his phone records being subpoenaed secretly by Schiff and the testimony by Turley of them, the Dems going to court would be for " Their Abuse of Power"…was telling that Schiff and Pelosi have over stepped in a big way. This is going no where…maybe not even to the Senate .

  20. I don’t inherently agree with obtaining phone records like that. I suppose there might be a case by case exception.. but its bad, it feels wrong. Soliciting a foreign power to interfere directly or indirectly in our elections feels pretty wrong too. This is a serious issue… and both sides are too busy spewing hatred at each other to make an informed ration decision. All the while Putin conducts an “interrogation” in a Russian torture chamber somewhere with a smile on his face.. secure in knowing the fact that he successfully interfered in the 2016 election,, and joyfully optimistic thats he’s on the verge of pulling it off again. I know better than to think I can have s serious dialogue in a fox news , or cnn Comment section. So I’ll leave it at that. Tc✌️

  21. Wallace and Ciccarelli. What a thankless and worthless notion. "Yeah, we'll take our time and look carefully at the evidence. But everyone knows he's broken every law in the book." Listen to the Ciccarelli. Quoting the founding fathers n such. Please. God this is more than incomprehensible.

  22. Look Trump is such a crook. Who cares about phone records being released. What's important is who they were talking to. This in the name of freedom and democracy and it's the people who vote for president that decide.
    Did I hear that guy right? Wow.

  23. I will tell you what is “over the line”. When the president of the most powerful country in the world demeans the position and pathetically name calls and bullies any person that has a different view to his own. What a tragedy that a president displays such malicious behaviour. He is seriously out of control.

  24. Hey wallace, where is the proof? Show us the proof……we all know you are for impeachment and think the socialist demonrats are right and your preferred group. Show me the evidence!!!! Wallace, did you hear any evidence of collusion? Wallace, the President was under investigation for 2 years and they ones that HATE TRUMP JUST LIKE YOU FOUND N O T H I N G!!!! YOU NEED TO MOVE ON, GO WORK AT cnn!!!

  25. Trump did the job that ppl who've never voted Republican voted for him wanted ..shake up the white house so the nation would take politics seriously…

  26. Я приветствую вас, мой друг, за службу нашему великому лидеру: Путину.

  27. Fox News what are you doing now? – The Communist Socialist Plantation Party already has CNN for their mouthpiece – Are you now giving all the liars airtime too? Don't give these snakes any airtime. Especially when they are busy trying to commit an election coup against majority citizens of America.

  28. The Dems are going to start rigging the elections again when the impeachment nonsense fails. Even though in 2016, it helped them nothing.

  29. Trump’s latest tweet came just hours after Fox News anchor Chris Wallace interviewed Cicilline, a member of the House Judiciary Committee, who said that the House had seen "a classic example of an impeachable offense,".

    Is Briben's quid pro quo and deliberately getting people fired just for doing their jobs well, okay?

  30. Lol @ the people in comments insulting Chris Wallace, who might be the only honest journalist left on Fox after Shephard Smith left. I guess you hate him because he sees the facts and concluded that Trump did something wrong and should be impeached. If a democratic president did what Trump did, everyone would be demanding they get impeached. Republicans are such hypocrites.

  31. Great reporter Chris Wallace. Please Hannity learn from Chris Wallace how to report the news with integrity and respect.

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