I mean, Ann Widdecombe made it
perfectly clear, she received two phone calls from a senior official in number 10
offering her a job on the negotiating team if she stood down as an election candidate. – So she’d swear on the bible that
that was the case? – And you know, I think you can agree
with Ann’s views in life or disagree, but the fact that she’s a very honest woman,
I think nobody would ever disagree with. Fact. Fact number 2: Sir Eddie Lister rang up our candidate
for Peterborough. – The prime minister’s chief of staff. – Yeah. Offering him a job in higher education
if he stood down as a candidate. I mean, they’re the things that are
already out in the open and what I have said John, is that there
was actually a package put together in which eight senior figures in the
Brexit party would go to the House of Lords and be part of the negotiating team
in order for us to stand down. And I was shown the list that we were
given from number 10. – It was that specific?
– It was that specific. – Does this in your mind? – It’s corruption.
It’s corruption. – Does it amount to high level corruption? Is it the kind of wrongdoing, if you see
it as serious wrongdoing, that should result in someone being charged,
collared by the police, and sent to jail by a court? – What shocks me is how little shock
there is about it. – Do you think that people should be forced
to pay serious legal penalties for this? – Well, I doubt they will be but I think
what it does show, is just how absolutely rotten and broken our politics has become
and why it needs major change.