Hong Kong protests will get rougher: Former CIA official

Hong Kong protests will get rougher: Former CIA official


STUART: DEMONSTRATION, CONFRONTATION CONTINUES. ASHLEY: YEAH. STUART: DENNIS WILDER, FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL DIRECTOR FOR CHINA, JOINS US ON THE PHONE. DENNIS YOU ARE IN HONG KONG, THAT CORRECT?>>NO. I’M IN WASHINGTON. STUART: I DO APOLOGIZE. I’M SORRY. MISTAKEN, MY FAULT. I’M SURPRISED TO SEE THIS. IT IS MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. IT IS AN UGLY CONFRONTATION. WE NORMALLY HAVE THIS ON THE WEEKENDS. WHAT SAY YOU? I WASN’T EXPECTING THIS?>>WELL I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, STUART BEIJING MADE A DECISION AT THEIR SUMMER RETREAT, LEADERSHIP, WHAT THE DECISION IS USE THE HONG KONG POLICE IN MUCH MORE SERIOUS MATTER THAN BEFORE. THERE IS STARTING TO BE THE LITTLE GREEN MEN PROBLEM. IN OTHER WORDS, I THINK THEY HAVE TAKEN A PAGE OUT OF PUTIN’S BOOK, YOU’RE BEGINNING TO SEE PUBLIC SECURITY PERSONNEL FROM ACROSS THE BORDER IN HONG KONG. SO RATHER THAN MOVING IN WITH UNIFORMED PLA, OR THE PEOPLE’S ARMED POLICE THAT WE SEE AT THAT STADIUM ACROSS THE BORDER, I THINK BEIJING IS AUGMENTING THE HONG KONG POLICE FORCE WITH PEOPLE FROM ACROSS THE BORDER AND IT IS GOING TO GET ROUGHER. STUART: NOW THE CHINESE FOREIGN MINISTRY NOW ADMITTED. YES, IT HAS DETAINED BRITISH CONSULAR OFFICIAL FROM HONG KONG, WHO WENT BY TRAIN INTO MAINLAND CHINA, THEN DISAPPEARED. NOW THEY ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE DETAINED HIM. DOESN’T THIS REALLY RAISE THE TENSION, RAISE THE STAKES BETWEEN BRITAIN, WHICH HANDED HONG KONG BACK TO CHINA 1997. THAT RAISES ANTE CONSIDEREDDABLY, DOESN’T IT?>>IT DOES. ALL BEING DONE AGAINST BRITISH COMPANIES AND AMERICAN COMPANIES, TO PRESSURE THEM IN HONG KONG RIGHT NOW, CATHAY PACIFIC PILOTS BEING TOLD TO HAND OVER THEIR PHONES WHEN THEY GET TO BEIJING. PEOPLE CAN LOOK TO SEE IF THEY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ACTIVITIES. YOU HAVE SEEN THE MANAGEMENT OF CATHAY PACIFIC TURNED OVER BECAUSE OF THIS WHOLE THING. THERE IS A MULTIPRONGED APPROACH BEIJING HAS THAT IS VERY OBVIOUS. PRESSURE THE COMPANIES. PRESSURE THE TRADE UNIONS. PRESSURE THE HONG KONG POLICE TO DO MORE. THIS IS, THIS IS AN ALL-OUT CAMPAIGN NOW ACROSS THE BOARD IN HONG KONG. USE THE QUOTE, UNQUOTE, PATRIOTIC CITIZENS OF HONG KONG AGAINST THE STUDENTS. USE TWITTER, USE FACEBOOK. WE ARE SEEING AN ASSAULT ON HONG KONG NOW NOT WITH POLICE, I’M SORRY, NOT WITH TROOPS BUT WITH ALL OF THESE OTHER, SORT OF WAYS OF PUTTING THE HEAT ON AND YOU’RE GOING TO SEE THIS INCREASE. STUART: OKAY, WILL IT WORK? YOU’VE DESCRIBED VERY WELL THE INCREASING PRESSURE, QUIET PRESSURE ON EVERYONE, TRYING TO SQUASH THIS MOVEMENT QUIETLY. WILL IT WORK?>>I DON’T THINK SO BECAUSE 1.7 MILLION PEOPLE CAME OUT ON SUNDAY IN SUPPORT OF THIS MOVEMENT AND THAT IS A BIG PART OF SIX OR SEVEN MILLION PEOPLE OF HONG KONG. STUART: DENNIS, HOLD ON A SECOND. I JUST WANT TO ALERT OUR VIEWERS, WHAT IS ON YOUR SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS A LARGE FORCE OF RIOT POLICE MARCHING RAPIDLY THROUGH WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THE A SUBURBAN TRAIN STATION. THEY’RE PICKING UP THE PACE. THEY HAVE PRESS ALL OVER THEM. THERE ARE DEMONSTRATORS FOLLOWING THEM. THIS SQUAD LOOKS TO ME, 30, 40, 50 RIOT POLICE. THEY’RE IN THE SUBURBAN TRAIN STATION. I CAN HEAR SHOUTING BIG TIME. WHAT’S REALLY GOING ON I CANNOT SEE ON CAMERA AT THIS MOMENT BUT — ASHLEY: THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO REMOVE PROTESTERS HAVING A SIT-DOWN PROTEST AT THIS TRAIN STATION, THE SAME LOCATION ONE MONTH AGO WAS THE SCENE WHERE PROTESTERS WERE ATTACKED BY MASKED MEN. 45 OF THOSE PROTESTERS WERE INJURED, ONE CRITICALLY. THIS IS BASICALLY ACKNOWLEDGING, THIS HAPPENED ONE MONTH AGO, NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE ABOUT IT. STUART: DENNIS, YOU WOULD KNOW ABOUT THIS.>>SURE. STUART: BEARING IN MIND YOUR POSITION. HAS THERE BEEN CAPITAL FLIGHT FROM HONG KONG? IN OTHER WORDS, LOCAL PEOPLE WITH SERIOUS MONEY GETTING THAT MONEY OUT AS THE TENSION RISES?>>OH I THINK PEOPLE ARE MAKING THOSE CONTINGENCY PLANS. THEY MAY NOT HAVE MOVED IT YET, THEY MAY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT. I THINK FOREIGN COMPANIES ARE BEGINNING TO SERIOUSLY RECONSIDER THEIR POSITIONS IN HONG KONG BECAUSE OF THIS KIND OF PRESSURE, BECAUSE SOME OF WHAT BEIJING IS ASKING THEM TO DO IS PRETTY UNTENABLE. FOR EXAMPLE, FIRING EMPLOYEES, SIMPLY FOR JOINING THE DEMONSTRATIONS. SO I THINK BEIJING IS IN DANGERING THEIR POSITION IN HONG KONG RIGHT NOW, THROUGH THIS VERY HEAVY-HANDED SET OF TACTICS THEY’RE USING. STUART: I DON’T SEE MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE COLD WAR BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND THE SOVIET UNION AND WHAT SEEMS TO BE A DEVELOPING NEW COLD WAR BETWEEN AMERICA AND CHINA. AM I GOING TOO FAR?>>I THINK IT IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF STRUGGLE. IT ISN’T INVOLVING MASSIVE NUMBERS ABOUT NUCLEAR WEAPONS. IT IS NO QUESTION, WE ARE IN A IF YOU WILL, A COLD WAR. WHAT WE’RE SEEING IN HONG KONG IS THE CHINESE VALUE SYSTEM, VERY, VERY DIFFERENT FROM OUR VALUE SYSTEM. AND IT IS BECOMING VERY OBVIOUS. FRANKLY, PRETTY UGLY. AND SO I THINK THAT BEIJING IS REVEALING SOME OF ITS TRUE COLORS, BEING XI XINPING GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW. IT IS GOING TO INCREASE TENSION, AGGRAVATION, THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT DID COME OUT ON SUNDAY WITH A STRONG STATEMENT ABOUT HONG KONG SHOWS THAT THIS ISSUE IS MOVING THE AMERICAN SYSTEM A BIT. SO YES, I THINK, WE’RE HEADED TO ROUGHER GROUND IN THE U.S. RELATIONSHIP. STUART: DENNIS, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT.

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  1. NON Chinese people really need be very careful when traveling in that area. even if they snap a pic or text, tweet could be arrested as a spy..

  2. Yes this china communists dont like demonstrations against their Party. Good that Trump makes pressure to this regime and for the brave people there.

  3. All these braindead Yankee morons who think that the Second Amendment would help them are truly BRAINDEAD !
    Ask the gun owners who have their firearms seized by their military after Hurricane Katrina !

  4. These HK protesters are the pests in Hong Kong, destroying and damaging public properties. Look at the damage and vandalism done by them. Guess HK Police is the only country which can have so much patience after all the damages, unrests, rioting and public disturbances created by these protesters. US and UK are the culprits and instigators of these protesters …..

  5. Prison Planet, that is what we have. What right does anyone have to tell you how or where to live, what a sick world we live in, our world leaders are psychopaths.

  6. Lou and Dennis China will have the last laugh American conspiracy and in breaking China will not succeed
    USA is the evil of the world

  7. Looking at Hong Kong … reminds us the wisdom of the American founding fathers when they put down in writing … the second amendment !

  8. That's because they are not protests. This is a revolution. God's speed Hong Kong.
    God bless America
    God bless President Trump
    Trump 2020 – See Clearly

  9. The CPC, specifically Dictator Chairman Xi and the MSS, are planning on using the same methods as what the Russian GRU and FSB did in Crimea… "volunteers"…

    By the way, the FSB and MSS use a book/pdf: American Accent Training. The Russian FSB distributes such in Russia and provides such to the MSS. They use the book to train their agents in accents, culture, and foreign espionage. An extensive and through training book/pdf it is…

  10. Hong Kongers know that a lot of BeiJingers and a lot of Mainlanders do not have it easy when speaking in Cantonese, specifically, of the Hong Kong accent/dialect. As regards to patriotic, what the CPC is saying about that: If you love the CPC.

    To the CPC, and specifically to Dictator Chairman Xi: You interfered, interfere, conjured and conjure up lies, you deny people freedom, and you force people, including the at the top in the CPC to praise you. China is not the issue. You are the issue. You are a stain to the CPC, as you aren't a Communist, you are an Emperor…

    To Hong Kongers and TaiWanese, as well as to Mainlanders: Chairman Xi is destroying faith, freedom of speech, and international obligations. He is doing such to secure power. Opposition leaders and those within the Party, you know Chairman Xi is a dictator. He doesn't have true power. You entrusted power to him, and now he is using such to silence you as much as possible. Look within.

  11. hahaha..attacked by masked men???? So the rioters attacking themselves??? Aren't all the rioters wearing masks.

  12. The protest will get rougher because Mainland China is completely running out of patient an tolerance on democracy so extreme violence is their tool on Hong Kong protest.

  13. Hong Kong is doomed. Historically, Chinese police and military have had no compunctions about shooting on their own people. Afterwards the event will be swept under the carpet like it was a minor skirmish held by disloyal citizens. Tienanmen square is forgotten. Nothing to see here.I'm sure the mainland Chinese people know nothing about what's happening in this city. Hong Kong is isolated and can easily be cut off from the rest of the world. The airports,seaports, rail-lines and highways can be closed in an instant and the city will be starved into submission. Food, energy, and other resources will run out and the people in Hong Kong will beg the mainland for mercy. The tanks will roll in, a few stalwarts will get shot, the rest of the people will abandon the protest. All the protesters will be handed over to the Communist government and will never be seen again. It will be a footnote in the pages of history.

  14. All mainland Chinese people must rise and stand with Hong Kong's people. The corrupt evil communist one party system must be replaced with freedom and democracy. Evil communist party must be replaced.

  15. The HongKongese freedom fighters really wish they had our Second Amendment, and our AR15 rifles and 30 round mags- because they're tools of anti-Fascism.

  16. Super stupid Hong Kong-ers don't realize that they are being fooled by foreign provocateur to turn Hong Kong into disaster area.

  17. China has horrible human rites track. Tiananmen is still fresh and china ready for Tiananmen 2.0 . Horrible. HK will be another feather in deadly communist cap.

  18. I agree with the views… the protesters are going to get rougher…. And I am sure that PLA will come in to reins in the protesters hard… good luck to the protesters…

  19. Those HK rioters or terrorists — as can be seen from the way they behave — just like the ISIS, cover up all their faces hopefully not to be identified. Which is to say, if they are peaceful protesters, why must they cover up their faces like ISIS?

  20. The rioters in HK are Vietnamese, they are not Chinese. Why the Vietnamese hate China, but love USA? It's because The Viets defeated USA in Vietnam war. After defeated USA, the Viets thought they were the mighty of all mightys, so they tried to bully China. But to their disappoinments, China defeated the Viets in the Sino Vietnam war. Thats why the Viets hate China very much, and they love Americans because USA is a good loser. So now they tried every now and then to disturb or disrupt China, of course, with the cooperation of the USA.

  21. CIA and NED's zombies are roaming the earth, from Ukraine to Syria to HK. Welcome to the US Empire in freak out mode.

  22. It is quite obvious that CIA instigates this HK riot and supports it with financial means. Protest against an Extradition Law that is quite common across the globe? What is a more lame excuse. And why did it lead further and further in chaos and riots? It is more a heavy handed US institutional engagement than a "simple" and "heartful" local movement. HK is the one of the freest cities with the best police and civic servants on this planet earth. Yet as long as you can buy your "riot" act for some time, you can actually spin it in any direction you want.

    So CIA runs the riot, and News spins the riot. You have yet another Color Revolution. All is missing is setting up some fatally tragic accidents to ignite the situation and get to a "tougher" state in HK. Perfect operations played by the book.

  23. welcome to the new cold War between U.S and China .Let's take a look at Hong Kong's show, who's lying and who's a mob?

  24. American have not seen what these protester do to Hong Kong , Fox News will not show the dark side of CIA agent
    Violent , groping , anything you can think of and call this democracy ! Shame to USA

  25. Come what u expect police to do when someone is supporting them fighting the rioter, do u expect police to arrest them don't be nuts with your intelligence

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  27. As I am observing what was going on for month's. I said to myself, what if I can have 1.7 million people,set and meditation and understand Buddha wanjana. The world will definitely be so peaceful and happy life. I have nothing but be peace within my own soul. Don't want to be Rich or have any power over no one. Just peace and loves is all I need. Because so far from what I live to see is all about impower impower and freedom. My freedom is to be peaceful not war. So much questions in my head but for sure there no answer.

  28. Will China come so far in the world only to tear it down with their own hands by attacking the people of Hong Kong? I'm not sure why they would do that when there are so many other peaceful and tactical solutions. He said it … 4:15

  29. Xi JingPins strategy ; just send 1,000,000 Chinese comrades to Hong Kong . Match them 1 by 1 ….
    The rioters all go to 1/2 heaven …
    Long live China
    Long live Carrie Lam …
    Long live President Xi …劾喫劾喫劾

  30. The American style of Freedom of Speech Twitter, FB & YT closed down tons of pro-China members accounts in related to current Hong Kong chaos!

    Hey, social media companies & US govt, are you guys just want to retain a/cs that pro-west & black shirt rioters only! If yes, where is the freedom of speech? Do you still have the right to criticize China on freedom of speech anymore? Are you not ashamed of yourself?

  31. why is Hong Kong not it own country, with it's own government, own freedom,own everything other country have, why do they need to deal with china police, government, just asking .

  32. Why won't Fox News report what really happened in the Subway station? The protestors are blocking train doors from closing and holding the subway as hostage. Riot police were called in by the subway staffs to remove these imbeciles. Really? Speaking with a CIA operative in Hong Kong over the phone about the battle plan, not only did you blow their cover, the PLA will be arriving at his door in a few hrs.

  33. First they came for the Tibetans and I did not speak outbecause I was not a Tibetan!

    Then they came for the Uyghurs and I did not speak out because I was not a Uyghur!

    Then they came for the Falun Gong and I did not speak outbecause I was not a Falun Gong!

    Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak for me.

    China's total surveillance state!
    There are no limits to what they can do!

    Stand united, stand strong Hongkongers, remain peaceful and never give up!

    From your friends in Canada!

  34. These wolves (rioters) attempted to rebrand themselves as sheeps for two days! But the wolves instinct came back out and they are now back on the streets. Violence and vandalism back on!!! HK police, one of the worlds most professional and restraint police forces, just doing their job and they are your sons and daughters too. Which side uphold the rules of law? You decide!

  35. Nobody wants to live in China.
    Everyone wants to live in America.
    BIG DIFFERENCE.
    People that supports Russia, China, or North Korea are trolls.

  36. The gross domestic product of China is 90 Trillion Yuan, or 13 Trillion US dollars. The average factory worker in China makes $283 A MONTH. Something is SERIOUSLY wrong with that!

  37. The world is watching the Communist. They are forcing the free world to unite against the peaceful protesters! In fact, they are wrong and they are destroying themselves instead. 潃儭

  38. So misleading. Reports grossly exaggerated claims of protesters. After the peaceful sit in at Yuen Long station (which was already illegal), the radicals went outside to create havoc, haunt civilians, block roads and due to complaints from local residents, police were called in. Guy detained was caught committing illegal acts with prostitutes and asked to not be reported to his family. Girl shot in the eye was by fellow protester. Why arent the true facts reported Fox, arent you ashamed? I know, you just want to spread more hate, more turmoil unless its your home. We want peace.

  39. Amazing how the US are still calling these types riots by masked rioters destroying properties and attacking police and police stations peaceful protests. How is this type of rioting still protesting?
    We know if this happened in the US, our police wouldve use live bullets already. Police here fire 30+ live bullets if they feel any threat at all. Hence the police violence we have in this country against black and Latino people.

  40. I'm a 24/7 Fox news follower. This is the most disappointingly bias and error riddled clip by either ignorant or plain lazy clowns.

  41. None of the HK police get hurt during their confrontation with protesters, but more than 700 protesters are arrested and many of them get injured, one female protester was shot in her eye by the police and some were wounded by knife attack from gangsters organized by local communist party…. still, the world are standing with the HK protesters after 2 months of massive rallies !

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