Herman Cain on China: This is not a trade war, it’s a negotiation

Herman Cain on China: This is not a trade war, it’s a negotiation


BUT RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, OUR STOP STORY, U.S.-CHINA TRADE, PRESIDENT TRUMP AND CHINA’S PRESIDENT XI-JINPING AGREEING TO RESUME TRADE NEGOTIATIONS WITH A PROMISE NOT TO IMPOSE ADDITIONAL TARIFFS ON CHINESE IMPORTS FOR NOW. TUCKER CARLSON HAS AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP AIRING TONIGHT. HERE’S WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID ABOUT HIS MEETING WITH PRESIDENT XI.>>YOU JUST RECENTLY, HOURS AGO, MET WITH THE CHINESE PRESIDENT, XI-JINPING.>>I DID.>>ARE YOU CLOSER DO YOU THINK AFTER THAT MEETING TO A TRADE DEAL.>>I THINK SO. WE HAD A HE VERY GOOD MEETING. HE WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL, I WANT TO MAKE A DEAL, PROBABLY THE LARGEST DEAL EVER MADE OF ANY KIND, NOT ONLY TRADE. WE GOT ALONG VERY WELL. WE UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. DAGEN: JOINING ME NOW THE NEW VOICE CEO, HERMAN CAIN. WHAT DO YOU MAIN WHAT DO MOU MAIN WHAT DO MAK MAIN WHAT DO MAKEMAIN WHAT DO MAKE OIN WHAT DO MAKE OFN WHAT DO MAKE OF THIS TRUCE?>>I BELIEVE THAT THE TRUCE IS AN INDICATION THAT THESE NEGOTIATIONS ARE NEGOTIATIONS. UNFORTUNATELY, TOO MANY PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A TRADE WAR AND TRADE NEGOTIATIONS. AND THE FACT THAT THERE HAS BEEN DECLARED A TRUCE SAYS THAT THEY ARE STILL TALKING AND THAT THEY ARE STILL NEGOTIATING AND I THINK THAT’S A VERY GOOD SIGN. DAGEN: HERMAN, BUT IF YOU — WE’RE SUFFERING EVEN IN A SMALL WAY, IF AMERICAN COMPANIES AND CONSUMERS ARE SUFFERING, CERTAINLY THE FARMERS ARE AND CHINA AGREED TO BUY MORE U.S. FARM PRODUCTS AS PART OF THE TRUCE, BUT HOW IS THAT NOT A WAR?>>IT’S NOT A WAR. YOU SAID IT. SOME PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING IN A SMALL WAY BUT THE PRESIDENT’S ROLE IS TO TRY TO END UP WITH SOMETHING IN A BIG WAY. THAT’S WHY YOU’RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT OF LITTLE TONES AND LITTLE NARRATIVES AND SOUND BITES ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING. YOU CANNOT MAKE A TRADE DEAL BASED UPON SOUND BITES AND IT’S UNFORTUNATE THAT SOME PEOPLE MAY SUFFER IN A SMALL WAY IN THE SHORT TERM. I RESPECT WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS DOING. IT’S CALLED NEGOTIATIONS. AND THE TRUCE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP EARLIER IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO TRY AND GET A REAL DEAL. DAGEN: HERMAN, JONATHAN HOENIG IS HERE, HE HAS A QUESTION.>>I WANT TO ASK YOU, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE TRADE WAR? THE PRESIDENT CITED EVERY REASON UNDER THE SUN FROM TRADE DEFICITS, WHICH REALLY HAVEN’T CHANGED AT ALL, TO IP THEFT, POTENTIAL FOR IP THEFT WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY UNENFORCEABLE EVEN IF A DEAL COMES TO A HEAD. WHAT IS THE MEASURE, DEMONSTRABLE MEASURE FOR SUCCESS THE THAT THE PRESIDENT OR LIGHTHIZER WILL USE TO GET US OUT OF THIS TRADE WAR WHICH HAS BEEN LARGELY SELF-IMPOSED BY THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF.>>JONATHAN, I RESPECT YOU TREMENDOUSLY. IT IS NOT A TRADE WAR. IT IS A TRADE NEGOTIATION. AND HERE IS THE MEASURE.>>I’M JUST QUOTING FROM THE PRESIDENT WHO MENTIONED A TRADE WAR, HIS WORDS, SIR.>>JONATHAN, LET ME ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD IS THE MEASURE AND THAT’S WHAT THIS PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO DO. YOU CANNOT NEGOTIATE A DEAL THROUGH SOUND BITES. YOU CANNOT NEGOTIATE A DEAL THROUGH THE NARRATIVE IN THE MEDIA WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. HIS WHOLE OBJECTIVE FROM THE BEGINNING HAS BEEN LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD AND THAT’S WHAT HE IS ATTEMPTING TO DO AND THAT’S WHAT’S SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THE TRUCE, NOT THAT WE’RE IN A BAD PLACE BUT A TRUCE SAYS WE’RE IN A GOOD PLACE. DAGEN: THE PRESIDENT HAS MOVED TO LET HUAWEI BUY HIGH TECH EQUIPMENT FROM THE UNITED STATES. THAT’S A WAIVER THERE, HERMAN. AND AGAIN, THAT’S BEEN ONE OF THE — CERTAINLY THE BIGGEST CONCERNS BY SOME IN THE ADMINISTRATION AND SOME AROUND THE WORLD IS THE ABILITY OF HUAWEI AND THE WIRELESS NETWORKS THAT IT’S BUILDING TO BE TAPPED BY THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT. HOW IS THAT A GOOD MOVE, THIS WAIVER?>>DAGEN, HERE’S WHAT WE DON’T KNOW. THIS IS A COMPLEX SITUATION. WE DON’T KNOW ALL OF THE ELEMENTS. THE ADD BE THE ADM BE THE ADMINE THE ADMINISTRATION PROBABLY KNOWS ALL OF THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE A PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT ARE GOING ON. WE NEVER KNOW HOW ONE ELEMENT IN THE MEDIA IS GOING TO IMPACT THE FINAL RESOLUTION. THAT’S WHAT I’M TRYING TO SAY OF. GIVE THE PRESIDENT AND THE ADMINISTRATION SOME CREDIT AND SOME SLACK FOR NEGOTIATING ALL OF THESE COMPLEX ITEMS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS WHOLE CHINA/U.S. RELATION. DAGEN: HERMAN, I’M GOING TO SAY ONE THING. YOU SAID THIS CAN’T BE — WE’RE NOT GOING TO FIGHT THIS THROUGH SOUND BITES. THE PRESIDENT IS A SOUND BITE MACHINE. THAT’S ACTUALLY HOW HE WAGES ALL OF THESE FIGHTS, WHETHER HE’S FIGHTING WITH THE DEMOCRATS OR CHINA ON TRADE, WHOMEVER IS HIS ADVERSARY THAT DAY, IT’S THROUGH SOUND BITES AND AT WHICH TIMER, SO — AND TWITTER, SO –>>MY RESPONSE WOULD BE, YES, HE IS A SOUND BITE MACHINE AND HE THROWS OUT SOUND BITES TO GET SOME IN THE MEDIA, NOT ALL, TO GO CHANGE A RABBIT DOWN A ROAD THAT’S NOT GOING HE ANYWHERE. HE DOES THAT ON PURPOSE. I FIND IT AMUSING AT TIMES. DAGEN: I SAID IT ALL ALONG. HE GOADS, PARTICULARLY THE MEDIA, INTO CHASING STORY AND PIVOTING ON A NARRATIVE, RATHER THAN COVERING WHAT MIGHT BE THE NEWS OF THE DAY OF GETTING — OF BASICALLY SETTING THEIR OWN PANTS ON FIRE, SO-TO-SPEAK. I WANT TO TURN TO THE 2020 RACE, DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE KAMALA HARRIS CLIMBING IN A NEW POLL, SHE’S UP 6 POINTS. FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN STILL LEADS THE PACK BUT LOST ABOUT 5 POINTS AFTER THE DEBATE. HERMAN, YOUR REACTION?>>MY REACTION IS ALL OF THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL WAND-TO-BEES ARE LOSERS, PERIOD. THERE ISN’T A WINNER IN THE GROUP. I DON’T CARE WHAT THE POLLS SAY. THEY ARE ALL LOSERS FOR ONE SIMPLE REASON. THEY ARE ALL PROPOSING SOCIALIST IDEAS. AND I CAN TELL YOU NOW THAT MAINSTREAM AMERICA IS NOT BUYING SOCIALIST IDEAS. THEY ARE TRYING TO DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM THE OTHER CANDIDATES BY PUTTING OUT THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS IDEAS THAT THEY CAN COME UP WITH BUT CAN COME UP WITH MUT CAN COME UP WITH MAINSTREAM AMERICA IS NOT BUYING THE SOCIALIST IDEAS THEY’RE PUTTING ON THE TABLE. DAGEN: JESSICA, TO HERMAN’S POINT, THE WALL STREET JOURNAL OVER THE WEEKEND WROTE AN EDITORIAL, THE HEADLINE WAS BERNIE SANDERS WON THE DEBATE, HE MAY NOT HAVE WON THE DEBATE BUT HE SET THE AGENDA. YOU SAW THAT.>>I WOULD TURN THE ATTENTION TO THE 2018 MIDTERMS WHERE DEMOCRATS WON 40 SEATS, HUNDREDS OF LEGISLATIVE SEATS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, RUNNING ON, QUOTE, SOCIALISM. JOE BIDEN AND AMY KLOBUCHAR ARE NOT SOCIALISTS. WE’RE IN A PRIMARY NOW. I KNOW THE RIGHT WANTS TO MESSAGE ON THAT. BUT THERE ONLY IS ONE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST ON STAGE AND THAT’S BERNIE SANDERS. DAGEN: YOU DON’T HAVE TO CALL YOURSELF TO BE IN FAVOR OF SOCIALIST PROGRAMS. THAT’S HERMAN’S POINT. IF YOU RAISE YOUR HAND — ELIZABETH WARREN HAS CALLED HERSELF A CAPITALIST. IF YOU RAISE YOUR HAND FOR ERADICATING THE INSURANCE OF 180 MILLION PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF A PLAN RUN BY THE GOVERNMENT, THAT SURE AS HECK SMELLS LIKE THE SOVIET UNION, IN TERMS OF WEALTH CONFISCATION, IT DEFINITELY SOUNDS LIKE THE USSR.>>OR BREAKING UP ANY BUSINESS. DAGEN: OR BREAKING UP BUSINESSES.>>BREAKING UP BUSINESSES. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, JESSICA IS WRONG. THEY ARE ALL SOCIALISTS. HERE’S WHAT THEY’RE TRYING TO DO. THEY’RE TRYING TO SAY THAT THEY ARE NOT SOCIALISTS BUT THEY KEEP PROPOSING SOCIALIST IDEAS. AND WHEN ALL OF THEM RAISE THEIR HAND AND SAY THEY WANT TO PROVIDE HEALTH INSURANCE FOR ILLEGALS, THAT’S SOCIALISM. AND MEDICARE FOR ALL MEANS NO CHOICES FOR THE REST OF US. DAGEN: I’LL LET YOU RESPOND LATER, JESSICA.

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  1. I love how Herman Cain was trying to get Jonathan to focus on what he was saying pay attention. It's not a trade War it's in trade negotiations now listen Jonathan I'm going to tell you. I laughed so hard. It's like telling liberals focus focus stay focused read my lips listen to the words I'm saying. Okay now maybe it'll sink in. LOL

  2. Well said Mr. CAIN
    YOU are a great American
    Wish you were in a Public Office
    Helping this Country.
    Wise Man

  3. China will continue to stall until 2020, after Trump is re-elected they will continue to do the same. It is not in Chinas interest to give anything to the US, tighten the screws already. It will hurt both sides but the sooner the better, for the future.

  4. As China puts cameras into HOMES in China to watch citizens?! What a moron! Huawei can NOT allow China to watch Americans.. If China outgrows America we are in Serious trouble

  5. The decision to allow Huawei to buy certain products made in the USA is not all-inclusive. The allowance only applies to non-defensive sensitive products. These products are also available on the international market offered by other countries. The defensive sensitive products are still under the prohibitive list. We have been cheated by the Chinese for decades. They stole our technologies. They force American companies that want to do business in China to give up their trade secret as a condition to enter that market. The Chinese government also uses its enormous financial strength to back companies like Huawei in the international market to underbid other companies by as much as 40% in order to dominate the market. The Chinese government taxes automobiles and parts from America at 25% while the US government only taxes their similar products at 2.5%. Unfair trade practices have forced America to lose trillions of dollars over the years. President Trump is trying to even the trading field for the benefit of the whole country. Why can't you see the whole picture? You mentioned that some people suffered. How so? Through this negotiation, the Chinese have promised to purchase lots of American products to make the trade balance more even. The good thing is that the items to be purchased would not be up to the Chinese. Instead, it would be in accordance with the list provided by the American side. Herman Cain understands the big picture, while the others don't have a clue.

  6. What Mr. Cain is trying to tell you is every time you attack the President you harm our side of the negotiations. China thinks they can wait the President out because they know Americans are not patient. So you going after the President you are not helping our country with this negotiation.

  7. What a smart man!
    He understand what is going on with trade deals and 100% correct about we will not give in to socialism in this country I love and respect.
    Dems. changed from JFK time and now.
    I do not recognize what they stand for, all I hear them talking about promoting hate and violence. I do not understand why Dems have problems solving loopholes on Border issues been hanging on for many decades.
    It is not only TRADE DEALS with China, people of the world should watch and pay attention to agenda behind SILK ROAD project, what China been doing to these poorest counties, leaving them huge debts and start to minipulating to control it's nations all around the world.

  8. Mr. Herman is right and I agree indeed that all DEM primary candidates are SOCIALISTS. Jessica should open her eyes, take off her glasses and contact lenses and stop sugar coating and perverting the obvious truth. I watched the debates that exposed them all!

  9. Trump is great.. at conning the under-educated. Its beautiful!! As an anti-American there is nothing |I want more than to see another 4 years of this disaster for the yanks.

  10. Jessica shouldn't laugh when Herman Cain says "with all due respect to Jessica, but she's wrong." I thought that was immensely generous of him, in that he heard her and considered her words. Jessica is consistently wrong, and for someone to honor her by listening to what she says, to me, is more than she deserves!

  11. So my request of getting America to stop being trade partners with commies is ignored again? All there is is trade wars and tensions.

  12. What the President is allowing sales to Hauwaii on are components that are readily available on the open market NOT anything that has any connection to National Security. People start listening to more than one form of news.

  13. Jessica is dense, 2018 was a fluke because of all the sh** the media was spouting because of the Mueller report. Don't think this election is in the bag for the Dem's.

  14. The best part of this negotiation is: " America is not gonna bend over anymore." America is tired of getting screwed." Obama is not Trump. Obama and Bush were weak and anti-American for the sake of the Bigs. No more! Time for China to take a back seat.

  15. Trade deficit with China are mainly caused by american companies operating in China, because they import lots of parts&components from US,when american companies were shifted to Vietnam, India or home,US now have trade deficit with both India and Vietnam,but US businesses are losing their market shares to other competitors in China due to higher tariff and higher costs,that will surely cause exports to China decrease considerably,so they are losing a huge market and will lose many many jobs in US in the end,it is not China but globalization which is effecting US economy,lead to lose traditional jobs and creat many new jobs in many high-tech industries in US,lots of Americans are ignorant and treat China badly.

  16. Game over for Trump and 100% hopeless. Don't know why he has suddenly become a WEAK president, disappointed.

  17. I dream of a world where Herman Cain is our Secretary of Labor. He could start today. He is a friend of the POTUS office & experienced with the US domestic side of Small Business Admin punditry & franchise millionaires 'regulation' issues guy. A good voice on the schedule and a friendly ally in a pinch. Trump does whatever he needs to and others keep up.

  18. China won!!!
    They won the trade war.
    This guy is a fraud.
    No wonder he lost a billion$$$ in 10 years.
    What happen to trump is tough on china.
    Pure bull from trump
    CHINA WON let the american people kniw the true.

  19. It's never a war when the US loses……the never defeatable USA!! 😂😂😂 Then Trump whispers to Xi how much is that Huawei stock again…..😂😂😂😂

  20. Believe me…China is so much hateful to western world being a head of them 5000 years ago country…..all they have is revenge for their lost behind……today in Chinese is growth into evils ones that wanted only to be number one to control worldwide life’s living on earth….

  21. Herman Cain wants to use rhetoric but fails epically. This is a trade war! The measure of success is getting China to agree to Trump's terms for fair trade deals and IP protection. China does not want to agree! A failure is to not punish China with tariffs for not playing the game fairly. Continued talks is the same as letting them cheat as time goes on. It's like letting your girlfriend sleep with another guy while she continues to talk you into not breaking up.

  22. China has been more than patient with Trump, having its citizen arrested, business sanctioned, and tariff added on it's goods, China has grown may become a fairer trade partner.. As the top 1% gained more from the bottom 80%, socialism will rise again; since the 'occupy' movement hadn't succeeded.

  23. i thought in this world we were all equal? i guess only the rich get to live a healthy life🤷‍♂️ let the poor die

  24. It will be a no deal for the Trump administration. A deal will not be possible because all the failures of the last two years. You can not build on failures and expect success.

  25. Mr. Cain, it was your president yelling "Trade war is easy to win" and when US caves in, it's not a trade war?
    Are you trying to insult everyone's wisdom in the world?

  26. I'm confused… Americans have been saying "trade war" since day 1… now it's not a war? which is it?

  27. Usually Americans have become accustomed to ordering South Koreans and Japanese to think that East Asians are inferior creatures.

    Sorry, this is China.

  28. IP theft is not unenforceable. He says that as if we agree it’s true. We enforce trademark, copyright, whatever laws protect innovation.

    America is a leader in many technologies. Those change over time. We will always be a leader in innovation.

    China has a culture that inhibits creativity and encourages theft of other’s ideas. They don’t even think of it as theft or think it’s wrong. Copying the best is obvious to the Chinese.

    The US must protect our culture. Our people, our practices, our capitalism have lifted half the world out of poverty.

  29. Nobody is suffering because of the tariffs. Maybe the very large behemoth corporate farms but most farmers are doing just fine. The crop affected by the tariffs hasn’t even been harvested yet. These people are full of it.

  30. More arm chair generals posting comments. If you folks can do better run for president! Probably not ….get on the hamster wheel and let professionals do their jobs.

  31. Fox news for the most part is a two faced bi partisan backs stabbing butt hurt shameful disgraceful CIA SCRIPTED 911'S DENYING TREASONOUS WATER TOTTING MOCKINGBIRD DNC LOVING CLOWN SHOW!!!

  32. These guys are all wrong. Even Bernie Sanders' socialism will be quite different with the socialism in Soviet Union of 70's and China now! It will be quite similar with democracy socialism of Sweden and Norway. Those are good and developed socialism.

  33. Listen to Cain.. He knows what he's talking about.. He's a business man.. Johnathon, hush-up..

  34. It's not a trade war it is a War! China seeking world domination and has never played by the rules and never will. Read the book "The Hundred Year Marathon"

  35. How can that Jessica be so ignorant when every single candidate has came right out and said they are for socialism! How can that bimbo set there and claim that its only Bernie? WOW, that is just stupidity in its prime right there!

  36. I don’t know if most of you are not informed or what. If myself or you start a business today, where would you expand your business at to expand your bank account? China? Vietnam? Etc…. Taxes were lowered in hopes to bring jobs back at the cost of running up our debt. The government makes revenue from taxes, obviously. But, at the same time, there’s laws and regulations for workers pay, benefits, etc. These foreign countries don’t really have that. Which is partially why your jobs are going elsewhere, because it’s more money for their corporations. Their products are then exported to the US because we are a HUGE consumer nation. You need it, I need it and government needs it. It’s just more cost effective for these companies. They chase the money. Tariffs are making them LEAVE those countries and they’re moving business to other countries which aren’t taxed under tariffs. You literally can’t force someone to import more product from you in hopes of lowering or evening out your trade deficit. This is only stalling China. My solution, begin trade and exports to numerous other nations that could equate to what China has. Eventually, let’s say for China’s sake, their people will get sick of shitty payed labor just as you were because of rising costs and the job market their will also begin to diminish. But that could be a long way down the road.

  37. Goodness sake that Jonathan guy reminds me of the MAD dude without his ADHD meds!!!! Goodness sake!!! Someone needs to make sure he has no caffeine and or sugar or food preservatives or colorings!!!! Yikes!!

  38. Thank you Herman-common sense in negotiating; well done Mr President. IT IS COMPLEX BUT THE SIMPLE FACT OF THE PRESIDENTS NEGOTIATING IS :"HAVING AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD" THIS IS CALLED BEING FARE.- GOD BLESS AMERICA .

  39. He shrugged his shoulder when listening to the Huawei question. I am no micro-expression expert, but this seems the man is not confident about what he's gonna say next.

  40. Hypocrite arrogant white Americunt pigs swallowed their bloated pride, disgracefully backing off a unilateral trade war. You lost, uncivilised white morons.

  41. @ 2:58 Perhaps it's just me, but this dude in the blue suit reminds me of Quark from Star Trek Deep Space 9. Similar features.

  42. "trade war is easy to win!" HAHAHA! Of course it is a war, and it is out of the two big guys hand now. Embrace for more to come. HAHAHA!

  43. this is negotiation, with lies, kidnapping, threats , violence making the Confucians and people of morals shake their heads……………………..and the weak shake from fear………..

  44. Xi is unaffected by the pressures of business markets in China.
    Trump is easily persuaded by businesses in America.
    Xi will win the long term war.

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