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  1. I had the LX100, their first 4/3" premium compact. I honestly was expecting them to improve on it quite drastically, having taken in the feedback and a close look at the competition…
    but it left me rather disappointed. I now changed to the G7 X Mark III because I agree on the sentiment that the last worthwhile Sony was the RX100VA, but even that doesn't really entice me. The Canon might not be perfect, but they already addressed a few bits with firmware and hopefully more improvement is to come. I do as well have the GR II which makes for a great streetshooter, perhaps the closest thing to say shooting analog with a Contax T2 or something, but taken to the digital age. But too be completely honest… smartphones have changed the game. Yesterday I took a picture of the starry milkyway froma moving plane with my Huawei P30 Pro and its sick Leica cam setup. People with Samsungs and iPhones tried their best, but they simply were no match. Impressive. As well its periscope optical zoom. Next month there's the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona and that probably means that march/april we'll have the new 2020 generation flagship smartphones and I'd say it won't be long before we (and manufacturers) stop bothering with compact cameras altogether, sad but true.

  2. A great comparison and one I have been mulling through myself. Canon is close but that EVF just isn’t great. I may get the Nikon z50 as it is pocketable with its pancake style 16-50 and would serve as a decent backup body to my z7. Dunno, curious what Fuji is going to release with x100v …have very little home they’ll ever refresh the x70…their focus has changed too much in recent year and they aren’t the same company they were a few years back.

  3. Great roundup. If I had to pick one of these for documentary use, it’s probably be the G5XIII. That whole series has been very good to me over the years. The Sony is expensive and not fun to handle. The LUMIX is just too big. The Ricoh is just way too much compromise.

  4. I use to use this form factor a lot due to its pocketability, but I’d like to recommend a different option to you. The X-E3 body is just as small and there’s tons of lens options that can keep it pocketable. It’s what I’ve moved onto as my EDC camera at this point when I can’t take my X-H1. If I absolutely have to go smaller, the G7X III is unbeatable for the size as well.

  5. That was an excellent review and comparison Andrew – thank you. If the criteria is truly “pocketable” rather than having a point-and-shoot device on the kitchen cabinet ready to grab at a moments notice, then weight should be a key comparison, and in that regard, I think the Ricoh GR3 would win hands down. In the same way, if the comparison is pocketable i.e. a take everywhere camera with you, then again, the Ricoh wins it for me, although I’ve never picked up the camera let alone own one, but I am currently in the market for deciding which to get and this review was very helpful thank you

  6. Since the spring of 2018 I sold my Nikon glass and Pany m4/3 system to move to Sony. Sold the Sony after 6 months to move to Fuji. Sold the Fuji system 1 year to repurchase Nikon glass and the z6. In all that time the one constant was my gr1. Didn't even sell it when purchasing the griii in December. Love, love, love those little pocket cameras. If I could get one with a 20mm lens I would carry one in each pocket.

  7. I’ll never understand the Ricoh apologists. That camera has so many shortcomings it is ridiculous. It is also expensive and poorly built (sensor dust, lock ups, overheating). Why would someone drop $900 on such a flawed product from a company whose footprint in the photography market is about to vanish.

  8. I think the fuji xe3 with the 27mm pancake is about the size of some of those "pocket" cameras.
    The 18mm is also quite thin.
    Beats them all, except for the Ricoh which can actually fit in my jeans. Though, I would never put it in my pants pocket bc there's always lint and the GR has dust in the sensor issues.

  9. UPDATE 1: A lot of people are wondering why I didn't include the Fuji X-E3 with a pancake lens in this comparison. The LX100 II was already pushing it, so I don't think I'd qualify the X-E3 as quite "pocketable": https://cameradecision.com/compare-size/Fujifilm-X-E3-vs-Panasonic-Lumix-DC-LX100-II
    UPDATE 2: I was mistaken about two things in relation to the Sony RX100 VII. It's been pointed out to me that it is possible to do touch/drag focus on the Sony RX100 VII, as well set the popup EVF to activate on startup.

  10. I'd take Ricoh GR anytime, but i still like LX100 ii.

    Sony Rx100vii were great BUT id rather get A7ii with that price.

  11. Hey I just wanted to let you know that you can use the evf “finder” button to turn on the rx100. So no need for two steps, just hit the finder switch and the evf will raise and turn the camera on. It can also turn the camera off when you close the evf

  12. Kinda surprised the Fujifilm X100F didn’t make the cut for comparison. Great review. Surprised at the underwhelming performance of the Panasonic lens

  13. You can control the Autofocus points with the Touchpad (LCD) on the RX100VII when you are using the EVF. You need to have Touch Panel/Pad set to: Touch Panel+Pad in the Setup (Briefcase) Menu page 3

  14. Fun comparison – thanks for doing this. I've got the LX100 (1st gen) and still love it… Sold all of my Canon gear when I switched to Fuji, but I just can't quite part with my LX100.

  15. I got the X100F to be my pocketable camera. It's a stretch for the size but it did fit. However, one lesson that l learned to have a camera in your pocket is it collects lots of lint, especially in the viewfinder area. My evf/ovf curtain failed to switch after a year of pocketable usage… I gave up on the idea to have a camera being pocketable and now just carry a small pouch with a strap for minimal carry.

  16. Best pocket camera? Fuji T-200 :-), sorry the timing of your video with the release of a new entry camera from Fuji is a little funny. but seriously I have friends who love their RX100 and there is a super YT channel that he only blogs with the G5X and his videos are often in the top 10 trending videos. So there are some good choices all around.

  17. Thanks for the graphic on the lens list comparison. I hate videos from other Youtube stars that verbally dump specs and manual info. You did such a great job on this video comparing the cameras without drowning us with specs.

  18. I prefer the original Canon G5x and its fulltime viewfinder (meanwhile I still shoot on a G16).
    I believe that you can set the snap focus distance on the Ricoh, and that you can always flip from snap to AF by using the custom buttons, or by using full press snap ….. Take a look at Mattias Burlings review.

  19. I bought the LX100 I for my brother when he had a kid, the digging of which drew me to Fuji. For him it was too demanding though 😀 However, I remember there was an extra lens cap with "Iris" you could buy. It automatically opens/seals the lens, so maybe check for that if it makes a difference!

  20. While I disagree with a lot of your points here, I thought it was a well-rounded overview of these cameras.

    I just got myself the Ricoh GR iii. Didn’t expect to like it as much as I do. That size! Seriously, how did they cram an APSC sensor in there? Regarding the autofocus in low light, I agree. It is weak but manageable, and a compromise I live with. Especially when you consider the image quality that you can get out of it. I prefer shooting with the EVF too but I don’t mind its absence as much as Andrew. I also have the RX 100 VII and while the autofocus is much better no doubt, the 1-inch sensor is just too limiting to me. You might as well be using your phone.

  21. This was a good round up and presented as fairly as possible given the circumstances. Very helpful for me thinking about a pocketable camera. I think for me where the size and image quality matters most, the GR series would be my best bet, but just wish it was cheaper to reflect some of the older tech in it. I don't mind no evf in the least as small compact camera evfs feel weird to me, but better AF would be helpful along with better video. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to make this and give your useful thoughts!

  22. The only workable pocket digital camera I still have is Olympus TG3. Not the best image quality, but you can toss the camera in the sand or in the water and it'll still work fine…

  23. Is touch and drag really necessary on the RX100 VII? Doesn't it have real-time tracking and you can just use the center point with focus and recompose? After all, that's the whole point of real-time tracking. No separate area, face , eye whatever modes anymore. Just place the focus point on the subject and let the camera figure out the rest while you reposition.

  24. Nice video! I have a lx100 mark I and i use this automatic lens cap https://www.panasonic.com/it/consumer/fotocamere-e-videocamere/accessori/dmw-lfac1guk.html. So you don't have to remove it manually. Try it 🙂

  25. I’ve had various iterations of the Sony and didn’t like most of them. I bought the Ricoh to see if I could live with 28mm focal length for a potential change to the Leica Q. Seems I can live with 28mm and I enjoyed the Ricoh very much. It’s the camera that lives in my briefcase and for when I want to travel light. The lens is crazy sharp. Otherwise the Q goes in its place.

  26. I keep a Sony RX100 V in one pocket and a Sony RX100 VII in another pocket. The f1.8 on the V comes in handy for low light pics like at live music

  27. Fantastic video, I have tried couple of those cameras, RGR is great but not for pet and kids, it shines in street where you don't need AF. I shoot Street and I use continues burst but never more than four, maybe 5, the moment can't be there for more than 4 shots! Sony, I had 2 and 4, fantastic camera, expensive for what it is, great AF, but with both I had lots of technical difficulties, awful menu, and the curtain in front of the lens doesn't last long.
    Pictures by both of you were fantastic, missed the time that kids were small😔!

  28. Interesting comparison with cameras I've seen very often compared to each other. I miss Olympus in this comparison! There's Olympus? I likes my Oly XZ-2 which i bought in ~2014.
    Each of these cameras compared doesn't have a wide Aperture at wide angle, except the RX100 VII.

  29. Nothing beat the Ricoh.I shoot ricoh gr I for years.I don’t think I need the version iii.The only problem is in really dark situations,but Ricoh I also have a flash.I don’t care about af.I use zone focus and Ricoh is the best for it.I don’t care about burst mode.I never shoot like this because I shoot very close and just peak the right moment.Ricoh has the best focal length,the best Len and by far the best images in b&w.

  30. I use the Ricoh GRIII and I love it. It‘s not a beginners camera imo. But the IQ is outstanding. Before buying one you should definitely check it‘s features and things you might miss. Regarding focus issues you should check firmware upgrades, they made a slight improvement a while ago (us pros shoot in mf anyway. 😀 )

  31. Thanks for slogging through all these. My conclusion: you just can't get a pocketable camera which (i) has a workable EVF; and (ii) has decent external controls and a good system for moving the focus point. I have owned the Fuji X70 (no viewfinder); the Ricoh GR (no viewfinder); and two Sony RX100s (fiddly controls and maddening menus). All are gone from my inventory. My go-to, everday rig is a Fuji XT-3 with a 23mm f/2. Definitely bigger than any of these, but a shooter's delight and (very important to me) weather resistant. Cheers from rainy Kentucky.

  32. And at the end "…a film option." NOOOOOOOO! I shot film from 1970 to 2007. I still have 5 film cameras that are boxed and ready for the executor of my estate to dispose of. I hated developing film. I hated watching a print come up on the paper at 1am because I couldn't afford to build a darkroom, and find out it was out of focus. NO, not film, not ever again. Get any brand name apsc interchangable lens camera and whatever lens zoom or prime and a good strap. Wear the camera around and take pictures. Done.

  33. Dude, the lx100 has an auto lens cap. It's aftermarket, but it's there if you want it. Also, knocks on the lx100 include the field sequential EVF with RGB tearing and the sloooooooow zoom–though you can set the zoom to step between common prime focal lengths.

  34. I have the Leica-branded version of the first LX-100. Although I primarily reach for my X-Pro2, I still love the Panny/Leica, despite the lower resolution and mushiness when sometimes zooming while fully open. Some of my best shots have been taken with it.

  35. You made the comment about the Sony RX100 VII's EVF, "The only thing I wish it would do is automatically switch on when you turn the camera on, or at least have the option to do so, so it's not a two step process to begin shooting at eye level like it is now."
    In the menu to to the "lunch bucket" (next to the star), page 2 or 7, bottom most option entitled "Function for VF close". Turn to "power off". Now when you pop of the EVF up, the camera turns on and when you close it the camera shuts off.
    Personally I prefer it in "Not Power Off" mode myself, but the option is there to turn the camera on.

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